Very much so
I could not contemplete any long term goals in this system,because the end was so close it would always be fruitless, so yes, it completely curtailed my ambitions and choices in so many respects.
cornish
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Did being a JW stifle your ambition?
by ballistic indid being a jw stifle your ambition?
did not needing to plan for the future affect your career choices and your consequent wealth?.
i'm not simply talking about following the advice to not take up an education which has been discused many times, but i'm going further to say that those brought up in "the truth" had their whole philosophy moulded and shaped in a way which never searched for more or wanted more; a non-materialistic outlook.. now some may still say materialism is evil, or that being brought up this way leads to a more content life.. the cynics, like myself, will say that keeping people 'happy but poor' is the genius of the rich.. i've had some success after leaving the org, after taking up education and so on, but it has taken time.
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Can you get DF'd for associating with DF'd ones?
by madison149 inmaybe that's a stupid question.
i always thought you could get disfellowshipped for associating with ones who are disfellowshipped.
however, i seem to remember something in the "secret" elders manual (which my husband found in it's entirety online a couple of years ago, but which we haven't been able to find again) which said that a person would not get disfellowshipped for associating with a disfellowshipped family member.
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Yes , When I was a Whitoe I was threatened with disfellowshiping if I had anything to do with a friend who had recently dissasociated.
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This is my story
by Dolphin57 insomeone every special to me referred me to this site.
i dont really know where to start so i will just go for it.
my name is laura and i am 20. i am married with no children (yet) i want to share my story.
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Thanks for relating that Laura,its a kick in the upbeat direction,good for you,Welcome!
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WHAT KIND OF PETS DO YOU HAVE?
by hamptonite21 ini have been researching the greyhound breed.
does any one have a italian greyhound or greyhound?
my application is in for a retired or rescue dog.
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1 dog,four horses, two ferrets
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Isn't this great
by ballistic inisn't it just great we can all have fellowship together?
or am i just having another manic episode?
i mean, if this was the 60's could us ex-jws associate in this way???.
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When I left in 1995 I had no internet but I was lucky because of a friend who left around the same time as me and other non ex friends who had taken the trouble to learn about the JW movement who helped me both before and after I left the JWs,plus other very understanding friends who were good listeners.
I was lucky becuase I had been deprogramed before I left and had read both of Ray Franzes books The Gentile Times reconsidered and also was regulary recieving ex JW journals like The Freeminds Journal and Comments from Friends which gave me some sort of contact with the world of those who were going through the same as myself.
All said and done though,it still was not entirely easy to say the least especially the shunning by members of my own family and individuals who I had known all my life,and for those of you who left still believing it was the truth it must have been especially hard and tough going for you,I am so galad you made it through and have made it here.
All said and done their is nothing to match the internet and forums like this and when I first got connected and wandered on to sites like this my soul tingled with joy.
Yes thank you Simon and those doing similar work.
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JW Catch Phrases
by pr_capone inwhat are some of your favorite jw catch phrases?.
"food at the proper time".
"spiritualy weak".
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'Running ahead of the organization.'
' Token service.'
'Don't try sawing horns off goats.'
'Are we moving foward with the organization or standing still with Satans world?'
'Where else can we go?'
'Meek and teachable.'
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Visited by JWs today
by Soledad inmy mom had an accident about two weeks ago, fortunately she is ok. im living in my parents house now after my husband (yet again) threatened to "beat the crap out of me"---that story in another post some other time.
needless to say, ever since she got out of the hospital the phone rings about 50 times a day, mostly calls from the "hermanos.
" today a couple that i have known for about 15 years comes to visit, and their "discomfort" with my presence (i am da) is quite noticeable.
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When I used to come across Wits years ago when I first left I found it hard not to resist dropping a cursory comment or singing one or two tunes ie 'In 1925,,In 1925 ,,,,Abram,Issac and Jacob ll be alive,, sounds silly but at the time it was theraputic for getting a lot of all those years of being trodden on out of my system and also I really felt sorry for them and in some sort of way I was trying to get through to them how they were being dupped probrably looking back though in the most in-effectve way possible.
Now I have got all that out of my system and I regularly meet up with witnesses,when for instance I bump into a Wit in a busy supermarket isle I always show absolute courtesey and politeness, my work as a mailman means I regulary bump in to Jws out preaching often even on the same door just act myself and show them the politeness and respect I show any human,I meet Wits while I am delivering mail out window cleaning very often and also obviously deliver their mail and get signatures etc for some items and just behave with common courtesey and politeness.
As we have largely been dehumanized and are seen as the lowest filth on the planet they would probrably prefer that we act in a way that befits their low prejudged opinion but I believe that just little acts of consideration can create inner conflicts about in their minds as to why we should be treated as so evil.
Edited by - cornish on 15 December 2002 3:41:39
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Some fundamentalists try to justify it by saying Lot was duped by drink.
Hey,,,so after the first time with that terrible hungover afterwards,I mean it would be a really bad one if supposedly he couldnt remember a thing and didnt know what he was doing so he let himself get completely sloshed again and had the other daughter,what!
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Discussion With My Dad...Ended Badly.
by Valis insome of you may know that my parents were expected for "dinner" on thanksgiving day.
well i really don't think its going to happen now.
i called my dad last night becuase my mother, now visiting my kids in south texas and bringing them here to see me, said they had "stuff to do on thursday".
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Valis
It may be true that coming out with both barrels blastin is not the best way to build bridges but when we are put on the spot and others try to tell us who we can and cant associate with,even relatives,you are put on the spot a little and their is no easy way to say ,'mind your own damn buisness'. Some witnesses even relatives very close to us can be very confontrational and beligerently defensive and almost demand that we grovel in profuse apology for doing the right thing,It is very difficult in that situation,I have been in a very similar situation.
Edited by - cornish on 26 November 2002 11:23:30
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My JW story
by Aztec ini don't think any of this is really all that unusual so i'm sorry if you find it dull.
i was raised in the jw cult from birth, a third generation member to boot.
my family was full of elders, ministerial servants and overseers of all sorts.
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cornish
Thank you for posting your JW story and sorry to hear about what you have been through. Also I am glad that some of your family have made it out
look foward to seeing more of your posts