What type of business are you in and what is your position? Also are you looking for advansment? Are you in a leadership position? If so, how many direct repoorts do you have?
With this info it would be easier to help.
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35Please help! I have NO idea what to do with this!
by Elsewhere inat work we are supposed to setup "goals" for a "performance review" later in the year.
i *hate* things like this because i don't understand what i'm supposed to put in the document.
it is far too subjective with no defined requirements that i can wrap my brain around.
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birthdays
by cr1234 indoes anyone know where the article is in the awake that says birthdays are a conscience matter?
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2112
The Bible puts Birthdays in a bad light? How by talking about two birthdays, celabrated by evil men, who did evil things. Well at a wedding party Jesus turned water into wine, and did so after many barrels of wine were already consumed. Further people then drank that wine, and it was the best wine. So I guess since the Bible puts wine in a good light we should all indulge.
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non-information
by DannyBloem inwhat was/is one of the most annoying things for me at the meetings, was the amount of non-information that the watchtower gives.. it is like rading the entire wt or whatever book and all that they basically say is like: preach more, or whatever.. when you look at the (mirrors of) the quotes site, you see very few interesting quotes of the last 25 years or so.
just because they basically do not say anything at all.
do you feel the same way?
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2112
For me one of the biggest non info thing in the WT was when the last paragraph would read "In our next article we will learn....".
And then they would ask the question, "What will we learn in the next article?" That is one of the most pathetic things they can do the prove that they really have nothing to say.
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I love that..."only what is nessasary for our immediate needs." No planing for the future, no planing for retirement, only enough to live hand to mouth. That's it, lets keep them inslaved and in bondage then, if they leave they will be destitute. Also what do their "immediate needs" consist of? Food, WT approved clothing, a moderate inconspicuous dwelling, WT publications, donations to the society, donations to the local hall, and if you do have any material possessions you are told every year in a big article "Many people often ask, 'how can I leave my dwindling estate to the Society?'"
They suck.
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2112
This is very interesting. Going through the post the Elsewhere provided (thanks) I was not suprised that there were few scriptures quoted. I know there were a few, but none that directly addressed sex within marrage. Yes they say it all applies but in every case it is too vague to make that statement. I did notice this-
"wisely avoid practices that approach, or could easily lead one to fall into, unnatural forms of copulation." Ok let me follow this through, If I was dating a girl and we held hands, that could lead to hugging, then kissing, then touching etc. Would not the same apply within a marrage. If we hug, then kiss would we then have to jump into missionay position before we went too far? What is the axact line we can not cross. I'm not trying to be graphic here but is above the navel ok or is it above the neck, can I even look down there? They even said if homosexuals did it first we can't do it. Ok how do we know homosexuals did it first. When did the first homosexuals come to be, what if Adam and Eve did if first would it then be ok?
They keep saying it is gross and un-natural, and that it is unloving. If I want it and my wife wants it and we don't tell others what we dop in our bed. And if we both feel closer to eachother when we do it, how is that gross, un-natural and unloving? I love how the often ferer to 1 orr. to show how evil oral sex within a marrage is when it talks about a man having sex w/his fathers wife.
In 1978 they seemed to lighten up and even admited to not having scriptural support for their privious stance. But the that was just a flicker of the light swtich as in '81 the scriptural support came back. Maybe I will call and ask, not that I give a rats butt, however my wife does and we fight about their stupid rules a lot.
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2112
Oops!
Anyway, is oral sex between married people still a crime or not. My JW wife still refers to the 1985 article about marrage, that said it is.
What's the latest?
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This just occurred to me;
by 2112 inwe all know that the nwt is a truly lousy version if the bible.
when they started using the bible why did they not add their own writings.
i know they use the wt and other books but i mean, in the lines like the mormans did.
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We all know that the NWT is a truly lousy version if the Bible. When they started using the Bible why did they not add their own writings. I know they use the WT and other books but I mean, in the lines like the Mormans did. I just figured they want to "look" Christian.
Then I started to think about their claim that there have always been anointed witnesses since Jesus. Also their claim that all other Christian religons are of the devil. So I ask "Who compiled the differant writings into the Bible and said that there were the truly inspired writings?" Was it not the Catholic Church? If that is the case the that must mean that the Catholic church were the first anointed witnesses. But that can't be because they are from the devil. I mean after all they celabrate Christmas, Birthdays, Easter, they use the cross, you know all the things that the Bible Students were doing in 1918 when Jesus viewed all religions and chose the Bible Students as the true religon.
But really, if a false religion compiled the Bible why would the "true" religon use it and say that it is inspierd? If the reason is that those compiling the Bible had Gods spirit then that means that their is no way for anyone to be in a "one true religon". Because any religon that has Gods spirit, especially in something as important as communicating his eternal word to mankind, would have to be approved by him. Therefore we could not be punished for aligning with said religon as it was through them that God gave us his word.
I hope I am explaining my thoughts clearly. Please let me know if I'm totaly messed up in my line of reasoning. Thanks
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JUST HOW GULLIBLE ARE YOU? DO YOU LIKE IT THAT WAY?
by Terry infool me once; shame on you.... fool me twice; shame on me.. we've all heard that one before.
it implies that being fooled is everybody's susceptibility until more facts are presented which enable more critical thinking.. critical thinking is something you aren't born with.
it takes lots of practice.. and anything humans want to learn requires many tries.
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In the end at all comes down to personal resopnsability. Yes we are all at time gullible and we can and probably have been fooled at one time or another. But what about those people that we know who have seen the real truth about the WT, yet they choose to ignore the evidence. They refuse to take the personal responcability to stand up for what they know is right. They all have their reasons what ever they may be. I think that they are counting on the fact that they will be able to stand before the judgment seat of Christ and be able to say "Ijust did what the elders told me" This can be said for any religion,cult, group, or whatever. But how many threads do we read here and you can just feel the frustration of those posting the the dubs just refuse to even look at evidence. Or when shown the evidence, they say "nope, not going to believe it" When we know some one who can say that they don't believe every WT teaching but still say it's from God, they have to have one three mindsets. First would be that they are totaly stupid people- there may be a few, but I would not like say such. Second, they would have to be pathological liers-which many seen to be. Third, and this one is scarry, they would have to be a sociopath. I know that may seen harsh but the profile fits. Remember I am not saying all dubs fall into one of these three groups just those who see the lies and yet still support the WT as God org. and never change.
I again admit that I was there at one time so I'm not trying to sound accusatory. I know many here don't subcsribe to the whole God thing, and that is ok. At least you are being honest with yourself and others.
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Is this True!!! / listin to this link
by skyman in.
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this is a recorded radio presentation here is the link please listin http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyid=5052156 then click on
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2112
I guess it is true to the guy who wrote the book.
I am not sure, as it is all new to me.