This is why the internet is so good. When someone wants to find out something about JWs all they have to do is put it in the search engine and out pops a mountain of imfo. Never again will they see the increases of the 1970s
Posts by alanv
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Up-to-date numbers of JWs and DF ones?
by Pams girl injust curious if anyone has up to date numbers of worldwide active jws?
are there more that have left than are currently in?
they bang on about growth in numbers, but after reading the wtbs numbers heading towards 8 million, other threads have suggested its more like just over 7 million.. also being a newbie, and isolated due to illness, can anyone tell me about china and the work thats not happening.
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Have you REALLY changed?
by AK - Jeff ini don't get around to visit this board very often these days.
still, when i do, i always come across a thread or two by former jw's who are now church members.
they don't look any different to me than jw's in so many ways:.
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alanv
I have totally changed to being a much more thinking person and on the look out for new imfo all the time to improve mine and others life.
As a witness I was so happy when I saw something bad in the news. For me that meant I was right spreading the doom and gloom of the JW message.
I supose I am sitting on the fence re. an inteligent designer. Certainly I agree with much of what I learn about evolution and the natural world.
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Im a newbie, looking for courage to sever the ties with JWs...help?
by Pams girl inhi, im paula from wales, uk.
ive been studying for 6 years with jws.
they came at a vulnerable time, my best friend died in a car accident when she was 6 monthes pregnant, i was drinking heavily, no work due to agoraphobia, meddling with the ouija board etc....i felt they helped me, cured me if you like.
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alanv
Hi Pams girl,
Welcome to the site. I am so sorry for all you have been through. I too neglected my family, because we were taught to always put the organisation first. It really was not your fault that you could not be with your mother at the end of her life. You were a victim as are so many others to this organisation.
I have been out 15 years now, and boy I am so glad I left. You will find there is so much they have not told you, and now thanks to the internet you will be able to see for yourself the societies terrible history and read about the thousands that have died because of their false promises.
Please stick around here, you will get as much help and support as you want. Many on here will have gone through much of what you had to endure and they can tell you how they have been able to restart their lives again.
I wish you well, and thanks for sharing.
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Help w/ Bible Teach ch 9 section "Major Developments of the Last Days"
by InterestedOne ini'm in ch 9 in my study, and we will go over the section "major developments of the last days" (pars 6-9) next week.
although i don't see anything special in pars 7-9, i think par 6 allows the jw's to strike a chord with people, and i was wondering if anyone could help me with how to respond to it.
they are able to quote real figures in that paragraph such as "three times as many people fell victim to war in [the 20th] century as in all the wars from the first century ad to 1899.".
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alanv
Since the end of world war 2 there has been relative peace. Maybe ask him what time period he thinks was a good time to live in, then research it yourself and almost definately it will be worse than the time we are living in now.
Also why does he thiunk there was such a population explosion in the 20th century. It is because people are living longer, less child deaths, and certainly since 1945 less people dying through wars.
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Last US veteran from WW 1 has died. Frank Buckles, 110
by ThomasCovenant inhttp://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-buckles-20110228,0,405865.story .
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Update on my life since I left
by strawberry cake ini used to post here a lot a few years ago.
this forum helped me out of the organisation with my husband and 3 boys.. we are now all more or less out and very happy.. me my husband and my youngest left almost instantly we realised the lie.
my middle son gave us a little grief at first and then left when he understood what were were saying.
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alanv
When I was in it, the social thing was very high on my list for staying in. There is no doubt about it, you can have a very good social life in the org.
Thankfully I and many others did not let that keep us in, and although I have less friends now, I know the ones I have got are not going to drop me if I say something they do not agree with
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Thought Control - Yes, the JW's Use It Too
by Crisis of Conscience inthe following highlighted info is taken from pg.
62 of steve hassan's combatting cult mind control:.
if information transmitted to a cult member is perceived as an attack on either the leader, the doctrine, or the group, a hostile wall goes up.
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alanv
I remember even after I had made my decision not to go any more to the hall, I felt really bad about reading the so called apostate book 'Crisis of conscience'. Once I had read it I was so pleased that I had. From that point on, there was no stopping me. I exposed the society when ever I got the chance.
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Kingdom Interlinear = apostate literature?
by brotherunsure inhas anybody else come across jdubs that have never heard of the kingdom interlinear translation?
i noticed this artcle http://www.soundwitness.org/jw/kit_part1.htm and i've found when i asked witnesses about it some never heard of it and other's had heard of it but didn't have one and didn't know if they were still in print and one got all weird and suspicious saying "well what do you want it for?".
when i called the watchtower and asked if it was still in print the guy had to put me on hold and look it up somewhere, he didn't know off the top of his head.
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What Does The GB Really Believe?
by Murray Smith ina speculative question i suppose .
but i am quite intrigued by this.. .
a witness for 20-odd years .
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alanv
Ray Franz who was on the governing body but left the organisation, felt that they did believe in what they were saying and doing but it was all about 'the organisaton' They feel there has to be loads of rules and regulations to protect the org. This is very different to the what the bible teaches
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facebook will be the end of me!!
by finallyfree! inso lately ive been getting friend requests from jw's who i knew from before i faded.
now my mom is on facebook and just sent a friend request, ya cant ignore your moms request...lol!.
i will accept her and this will probably be the end to my fade.
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