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  Why I'm mad at god.

  by Abandoned in

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  the past couple of days, i've been posting a lot about how disappointed and even disgusted i am with god and how he runs his universe.

  i guess that probably offends some people.

  i don't intend to make people feel bad, but here's what's been going on in my life lately:.

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  Hannah

  I just feel so sick and tired of fighting only to find out that I've only risen up to the bottom

  I can totally relate to that! This has been an extremely rough year on me too, but I'll spare you the details since this thread is about you. My heart empathizes so much for you. Sometimes when you're down it just feels as though you keep getting cut off at the knees every time you try to get up. I find myself angry at my parents for bringing me into this hell hole and then having the whole JW prospect of living forever....pleeeeease. That's one thing to be very thankful for--being freed from the borg. It truly is a struggle to keep a sunny outlook with a big rain cloud hanging over your head. Take it one day at time, and try not to be so hard on yourself or God (although this can be difficult). We are here for you, and we do care for you. If you need any one to talk to pm me. Sending you a big e-hug.
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  Sick?

  by defective light in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to the doctor today, was feeling really bad....waiting to see the doc, i notice a "jw botchtower" magazine in the waiting room, it made me ill that someone would leave that trash in a public place, so i just tore it up and put it in the trash.... i wonder now....am i really sick?

  your thoughts will make me feel better....

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  Hannah

  Actually my daughter did the same thing. She saw JW mags displayed in her university library so she took them in the restroom and trashed them. She'll be glad to know that others do this too.
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  So far this 1st Christmas ........

  by troubled mind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has rocked !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  i loved sending and receiving xmas cards ,and they are all proudly displayed on my end table .

  my house is modestly decorated winter ,taking it slow .

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  Hannah

  This is my first Christmas too. My children and I are so excited. This is our very first Christmas that we have ever celebrated since me and my kids were raised as JWs. However, my husband is such a bummer. Unlike the rest of us in our family, he had a pre-JW life. He is still holding on to the belief that Christmas is a pagan holiday and he doesn't want to have anything to do with it. We haven't officially been out of the borg for a year yet, so maybe he'll come around next year. Somehow, I doubt it. Anyway, the kids and I have had so much fun decorating the house and the tree. I have always secretly wished I could celebrate Christmas. I would see movies and TV shows with families all together etc, etc. My husband said it was all Hollywood fantasy and that wasn't at all what Christmas was like in real life. At least he had the whole Christmas experience growing up. Funny though, he has admitted that his best memories are during the holidays with his family. So what's the Hollywood fantasy? If you've never experienced it, it looks so wonderful. I don't know. I'll get back to you in a couple of years! One thing that I am really enjoying is listening to Christmas music and singing along out loud...makes me feel warm and happy and makes my husband grumpy.

  So to all those who are experiencing the joy of their very first Christmas like me....MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!! and MERRY CHRISTMAS TO EVERYONE!!!!
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  Well did you know that when a former JW starts buying xmas gifts ........

  by troubled mind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  they have turned to the world (aka darkside ) and will end up becoming terrible horrible people !?????

  well that is what one jw told a fellow workmate of my husbands .

  a couple of days ago my hubby and i were looking at toys in the store when a jw( former friend of ours) stopped to chat with us .we said nothing about the gifts being for xmas (unless she over heard our personal conversation ).

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  Hannah

  " The JW 's family sure is into gossip arn't they "

  He sure hit that nail on the head!
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  Hope for uz apostates

  by wozadummy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since the wts speaks so beamingly about ,and quotes never endingly solomons writings, we should consider it possible that ,since solomon died apparently as an apostate that perhaps ray franz and we too may get everlasting life and he may even be quoted one day.

  this would be consistant would'nt it?

  what say ye?

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  Hannah

  If the bible says at Romans 6:23 "For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord", then shouldn't everyone who dies be resurrected? After my DF'd mom died, my elder father said maybe she'll be resurrected. I said exclaimed, "Maybe!" and then quoted this scripture to which his only reply was you might be right.
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  What do you do when JW's talk to you???

  by noni1974 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i usually tell them i'm da.i tend to feel like it's my way of respecting their belief that way.when i was a dub i wouldn't have wanted to talk to a df or da ed person.i was at a family wedding a couple of weeks ago and lots of people came up and said hi to me.people who know who i am and know i'm da ed.i was polite and said hi back but i didn't really talk to anyone unless they talked to me first.i'm asking this question because my second cousin came up to me and said hi.he asked how i was doing i said i'm great.then i told him i'm da ed.he said really i said yes it's been 8 happy years since i left.then i walked away.i think i was rude.what do you say when people come up to you and say hi?

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  Hannah

  My husband and I are DA'd. The JWs we do see run away. It as though they'll catch some type of incurable disease if they even look at us. We've even been stopped beside some JWS at a red light and I'll wave. The JW instantly turns the other way and pretends they didn't even see me. This has happened to my husband too. Funny story...I pulled up to a drive thru teller at the bank and the teller was a JW who instantly left the window. A couple minutes later another, very polite teller approached the window and assisted me. What the heck?! This is a business and it was her job to help me despite our religious differences. If I hadn't been in my p.js I would have marched into the bank and spoke with manager about the incident. So, now I just shun them before they have a chance to shun me. It makes me feel better in some warped way. My husband tells me to get over it. Perhaps in time I will.
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  A Painless Relationship - Possible?

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear newest best friends,.

  we spend a lot of time here - learning and helping one another out - a worldwide "brother- and sisterhood.

  " quite different from what we left behind.

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  Hannah

  You mentioned we had some really good times. Yes I agree. Some really good friends? No. Good friends stick by, hold your hand, lend you their shoulder to cry on...you get the idea. They don't drop you like a hot tamale because your spiritual outlook has changed. So what. Your inner core is still the same. You hold fast to the same morals. You wouldn't think of harming your "really good friends" or severing ties with them because they decided to change from lets say Methodist to (insert whatever). That's what makes the whole JW thing so wacky. It forces people to do things against nature i.e. shun loved ones

  As far as painless relationships goes. My sons and my best friend (who is more of a mother to me).
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  Does anyone have this? Cool if you did. Craking down on deciet.

  by icocer in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  from "should you believe in the trinity"the catholic encyclopedia also comments: "in scripture there is as yet no single term by which the three divine persons are denoted together.

  the word [tri'as] (of which the latin trinitas is a translation) is first found in theophilus of antioch about a. d. 180. .

  shortly afterwards it appears in its latin form of trinitas in tertullian.

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  Hannah

  Good luck. It shouldn't be hard to prove all the misquotes. Another book which is a hot bed of misquotes is the "Creation" book. I hope your co-worker see the "new light" you're showing him.
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  Watchtower teaches how to fade

  by JH in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i stopped going to meetings, i faded away slowly.

  we always tend to think that we are the ones who faded away and that the jw's in general wanted us to stay.. but if you think about it, the elders, ms, and every good jw who still attend meetings, are also the ones fading.

  the only difference is that they are fading the people who left.

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  Hannah

  Yep, shows that JW 'love' is totally conditional on meeting attendance and going door-knocking on a saturday morning.

  How true this is. What about Jesus' words at Matthew 18:12-14?

  12 "What do YOU think? If a certain man comes to have a hundred sheep and one of them gets strayed, will he not leave the ninety-nine upon the mountains and set out on a search for the one that is straying? 13 And if he happens to find it, I certainly tell YOU, he rejoices more over it than over the ninety-nine that have not strayed. 14 Likewise it is not a desirable thing with my Father who is in heaven for one of these little ones to perish.

  Isn't this scripture taught at the "elder" school? Doesn't any JW "shepherd care about what Jesus is saying in this scripture? This has always made me want to scream and shout and kick and jump up and down and .....
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  False Prophets - Yes or No?

  by Clam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no: "never in these instances, however, did they presume or originate predictions in the name of jehovah.

  never did they say these are the words of jehovah.

  " (aw 3/22/93).

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  Hannah

  "round and round the merry-go-round, the monkey chased the weasel..."

  All this yes/no flip flop reminds me of watching my dog run around chasing his tail--amusing, frustrating and pointless.