for a week now i have been on this sight, the watch tower sight, reading 3 diffrent translations of the bible ( kj, nwt, and new american standard,) would have a 4th translation if i could read greek because i also have a greek new testament.
i have also been in long conversations with the guy that is a jw and find myself overwhelmed.
i am getting addicted to all this and the research.
When I was an active JW, I thought I knew JW history. I was very dissapointed to find out
I had not been told the whole history of JW's, only an edited flattering version.
http://www.watchtower.cc/ gives access to older JW publications.
Crisis of Conscious by Ray Franz (former member of JW leadership counsel) will reveal to you what they
don't want you to know, the true inner workings of the JW org.
i've been disfellowshipped for 4 years now (for loose conduct - lol) .
what i want to know is, what am i supposed to believe now?
i was brought up a jw but i know that so many of their teachings and doctrines are completely false.
It only takes three minutes to watch this presentation. Enjoy, hopefully it will help you feel better. http://theinterviewwithgod.com/
i heard about this on the hispanic channel the other night and looked it up just now and found this link.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1609256/posts.
they plan a one day boycott in which they will not spend one cent on that day.
The US should insist that the Mexican government get their act together.
I heard an interview on NPR, of an illegal immigrant from Mexico, making his second trip back into the US.
He had a $9 an hour restaurant dish washing job. He said what he made in one hour at the restaurant
was more than he would make in a whole day in Mexico. After working at the restaurant for a few years
he returned to Mexico with enough money to buy a new truck and some land. Now he is returning
to work illegally at the restaurant to save enough to build on the land he purchased.
A - a
P - person
O - opposing
S - speculation
T - thus
A - attaining
T - total
E - enlightenment
he's refusing to pay maintenance.
hanging aroung with disfellowshiped people and just being a plain arse hole.
after enduring months of shit from him i'vce decided to call the elders in his congregation.
Depends on the elders. Most will not give your side much consideration, unless they are looking for
something against your ex. If he's a part of the good old boys club, your argument will probably go in one
ear and out the other. Use the secular authorities to get the monetary support due you. Legal
action is your right. Let them know that if they will not give you justice, in addition to exercising your legal rights,
you plan on sending documentation to the societies legal department. Mention of
the legal department seems to put fear in the heart of elders.
now, i think "stupid".
Leadership:
Deception, cover ups, pursuit of power, prominance and position.
Arrogance masquerading as humility. Manipulation and injustice.
Rank & File:
Sincere people blinded by the leadership.
i've been thinking of how all of our lives have changed from learning about this religion and getting out.
probably no one has done more to help us understand the truth about "the truth" than raymond franz.
of course there were others that questioned dates, prophecies and dogma but it was ray franz that revolutionized the organization.
I can really identify with Rays description of the secretive, manipulative and unjust tactics used by the
GB. Growing up as a JW I always thought that if their was a problem on the local level, we could trust that if
Brooklyn was made aware, they would correct it. Rays experience helped me understand that the tryanny and
insecurities of the puppets (elders, CO's and DO's) is only a reflection of the those holding the strings (GB).
i've noticed in my area (ny metro) that jw's count time doing "street witnessing".. do you see the same in your area?.
sitting on benches drinking coffee counting time.
standing on corners laughing and conversating among themselves as people walk right by.. if they do acknowledge a passerby, it's a last minute casual holding out of a magazine or tract.
I've noticed in my area (NY metro) that JW's count time doing "street witnessing".
Do you see the same in your area?
Sitting on benches drinking coffee counting time.
Standing on corners laughing and conversating among themselves as people walk right by.
If they do acknowledge a passerby, it's a last minute casual holding out of a magazine or tract. So much
for whetting the appitite. Usually any literature taken ends up in the gutter or in the nearest trashcan.
It's all about counting time and having a pioneer title.
anyone who has been following my situation may recall that it looks like the elder's are 'closing in' on wifey and i after having been out about two and a half years.
i think they may force a showdown with a registered letter inviting me to the jc.
i don't care if they df me.
A few questions I can never get an answer to are:
1. How is it that others organizations are labeled as false prophets for predicting things in God's name that didn't come true, but the WBTS, which has done the exact same thing are not false prophets. ( Have in hand direct quotes about 1914, 1925, 1975, generation of 1914, etc.)
2. Why did the WBTS keep it's NGO affiliation with the UN a secret? Why is it okay for them to be an NGO, supposedly to use their library, but an average JW can't even be a member of the YMCA to use the pool?
3. C.T. Russell said that old light never contradicts new light? Why does the WBTS's new light contradict old light?
4. When people have been DF'ed for not agreeing with the WBTS's "present truth", are they later exonerated and apologized to for the wrong done to them? If not, why not? Will Jehovah judge such ones adversely for taking the correct stand in line with biblical truth and it was the WBTS that had erred?
5. Did the imperfect men used as bible writers by Jehovah get what He wanted conveyed correct without revisions and doctrinal reverals? Why then is the FDS unable to do the same if Jehovah is using them as his channel and has given them his holy spirit?
anyone who has been following my situation may recall that it looks like the elder's are 'closing in' on wifey and i after having been out about two and a half years.
i think they may force a showdown with a registered letter inviting me to the jc.
i don't care if they df me.
After choosing the five questions you know they cannot answer, why not meet with them and tape their canned non-answers. A tape recording to go along with the letter could be the icing on the cake for anyone you want to know the real truth.
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