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  Newbie question; Why do JW hypocrites PROVE that they're a cult?

  by psycsnacha in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello, i discovered this site yesterday and have been on it for hours!

  i've been studying with jehovah's witnesses for 4 years and quite frankly love it.

  a bit of background, i am a college educated young man (have a bs in psychology) and am currently a medical student.

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  If you love to learn, do you understand that becoming one of Jehovah's Witnesses will curtail that?

  The WBTS teaches that the only thing really worth learning is what they teach, and if one has true faith,

  accepted without question.

  Learning involves the ability to ask questions. This is taboo once one becomes baptized.

  If you ask questions they can't or don't want to answer, you will be looked at as lacking faith. Many

  have been disfellowshipped for just that. "There is nothing wrong with trying to refute the teachings and practices of a religious group that a person may feel is incorrect." (Awake!

  “It is important, then, that you "keep testing whether you are in the faith," as Paul declared. Keep checking to see whether the things you believe are in keeping with God's Word. But the question is, Are you willing to put your religion through such a test? There is nothing to fear, because if you have the right religion you can only be reassured by the examination. And if what you believe is not in keeping with the Bible, then you should welcome the truth, because it leads to light and life. - Isa. , Dy; 2 Cor. 13:5.” (Watchtower may 1, 1958 p. 261)

  Isn't it hypocritical that the WBTS encourage others to do what JW"s are discouraged from doing?
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  My Wife.... Ughh

  by roflcopter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't know how many times i have shown my wife from the societies own literature the fallacies of the past but it still doesn't convince her.

  just just shrugs it off and says "at least they were humble enough to admit they are wrong.".

  it blows me away cuz i reason and say "what if they are wrong now, if we questioned it we would be expelled.." .

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  Sometimes using the take away approach works. Sometimes the more aggressively we offer someone something,

  the more inclined they are to refuse. Whereas when we no longer offer it, thereby taking it away from them, they may start

  to desire what we use to offer to them. An indication is when they initiate the conversation.
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  Were Most Of The Elders Dumb--- That You Knew???

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i'd say out of 10 elders, the average "sharp" ones are 2 or 3.

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  Most of the elders I know are self righteous cowards, afraid to stand up for what is right.

  Which has lead to their making embarassingly dumb decisions.

  Their bad associations (one another) has lead to their lost of the useful habit of being able to think intelligently.

  The truly intelligent ones resign or are deleted because of they do not have a cowardly, I can't

  think for myself, follower the leader mentality.
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  MIND IN OVERLOAD

  by Broken Hearted in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for a week now i have been on this sight, the watch tower sight, reading 3 diffrent translations of the bible ( kj, nwt, and new american standard,) would have a 4th translation if i could read greek because i also have a greek new testament.

  i have also been in long conversations with the guy that is a jw and find myself overwhelmed.

  i am getting addicted to all this and the research.

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  When I was an active JW, I thought I knew JW history. I was very dissapointed to find out

  I had not been told the whole history of JW's, only an edited flattering version.

  http://www.watchtower.cc/ gives access to older JW publications.

  Crisis of Conscious by Ray Franz (former member of JW leadership counsel) will reveal to you what they

  don't want you to know, the true inner workings of the JW org.
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  WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE NOW?

  by bubble in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been disfellowshipped for 4 years now (for loose conduct - lol) .

  what i want to know is, what am i supposed to believe now?

  i was brought up a jw but i know that so many of their teachings and doctrines are completely false.

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  It only takes three minutes to watch this presentation. Enjoy, hopefully it will help you feel better. http://theinterviewwithgod.com/
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  Has anyone else here heard about May 1st and what do you think about it?

  by WildHorses in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i heard about this on the hispanic channel the other night and looked it up just now and found this link.

  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1609256/posts.

  they plan a one day boycott in which they will not spend one cent on that day.

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  The US should insist that the Mexican government get their act together.

  I heard an interview on NPR, of an illegal immigrant from Mexico, making his second trip back into the US.

  He had a $9 an hour restaurant dish washing job. He said what he made in one hour at the restaurant

  was more than he would make in a whole day in Mexico. After working at the restaurant for a few years

  he returned to Mexico with enough money to buy a new truck and some land. Now he is returning

  to work illegally at the restaurant to save enough to build on the land he purchased.
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  APOSTATE acronyms

  by parlay in

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  2. friends

  a - a. p - person.

  o - opposing.

  s - speculation.

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  A - a

  P - person

  O - opposing

  S - speculation

  T - thus

  A - attaining

  T - total

  E - enlightenment
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  Will the elders listen to me even though i'm disfellowshiped

  by Lehaa in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  he's refusing to pay maintenance.

  hanging aroung with disfellowshiped people and just being a plain arse hole.

  after enduring months of shit from him i'vce decided to call the elders in his congregation.

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  Depends on the elders. Most will not give your side much consideration, unless they are looking for

  something against your ex. If he's a part of the good old boys club, your argument will probably go in one

  ear and out the other. Use the secular authorities to get the monetary support due you. Legal

  action is your right. Let them know that if they will not give you justice, in addition to exercising your legal rights,

  you plan on sending documentation to the societies legal department. Mention of

  the legal department seems to put fear in the heart of elders.
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  What First Pops Up Into Your Mind When You Hear "Jehovah's Witnesses"???

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  now, i think "stupid".

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  Leadership:

  Deception, cover ups, pursuit of power, prominance and position.

  Arrogance masquerading as humility. Manipulation and injustice.

  Rank & File:

  Sincere people blinded by the leadership.
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  Ray Franz---A Man We Owe Our Thanks To

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been thinking of how all of our lives have changed from learning about this religion and getting out.

  probably no one has done more to help us understand the truth about "the truth" than raymond franz.

  of course there were others that questioned dates, prophecies and dogma but it was ray franz that revolutionized the organization.

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  I can really identify with Rays description of the secretive, manipulative and unjust tactics used by the

  GB. Growing up as a JW I always thought that if their was a problem on the local level, we could trust that if

  Brooklyn was made aware, they would correct it. Rays experience helped me understand that the tryanny and

  insecurities of the puppets (elders, CO's and DO's) is only a reflection of the those holding the strings (GB).