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  Okay, you wanted it, you got it:Revised YPA Book Table of Contents

  by CaptainSchmideo in

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  dealing with family.

  1. how can i talk to my parents?.

  2. why are we always arguing?.

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  stapler99

  Anyone noticed "How can help my daughter gain a balanced view of dieting"? Clearly boys never have eating problems.
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  Books Missing From Libraries

  by FrankWTower in

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  2. scandals

  does anyone know if it's wt policy to exclude certain volumes of watchtower/awake magazines or other literature from the kingdom hall libraries?.

  i was doing some research to confirm some of what i've seen online but many key publications are missing from the kh library.. other stuff i checked for was completely different from what's shown on scans and images from jwfacts.org and other sites..

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  If they were honest about their history and had nothing to hide, they could progressively digitize every single Watchtower publication ever made (including various editions and translations), and release as a DVD or as a Torrent. Space is not a constraint. These silent changes are clear cases of intellectual dishonesty - clearly they hope they won't be caught out. They show that they have something to hide. If they believe that they have been making progress as the "light gets brighter", they should present the old publications with a disclaimer that the understanding may have changed. They don't do this because their old stuff is so embarrassing in places.
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  What was a "MarkingTalk"?

  by prophecor in

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  2. beliefs

  i've only been in the truth from a distance.

  family not in.

  studied for years back and forth.

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  stapler99

  I never knew about "marking" in the time I was a Jehovah's Witness. I wonder if it is just an American thing? I've never seen any reference to it in any of their literature.
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  Lack of take up of Advance Directive forms

  by billyboy in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  as some of you know, i am an elder in a southern england congregation.

  the britain branch ( policy letter dec 8th 2007) stopped all hlc brothers giving talks at other congregations and as a result the take-up of the advance directive form (ad) has dropped dramatically.

  jws are presenting themselves at hospitals without the form and nhs staff are phoning the hlc to ask that an elder visits to help them compose it while in hospital.. the uk branch is asking hlc members to meet up with bodies of elders so that we can "educate the brothers" (their expression) - we had our meeting a few weeks ago with a couple of the hlc brothers.

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  They used to hand them out at or after the weekday Kingdom hall meeting, but they were signed and witnessed at the book study. Could someone please explain what happened to this arrangement, now the bookstudy has been abolished?

  I don't see how they could claim to a court of law that the blood policy is a conscience matter. There has to be enough evidence to show otherwise.
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  Time demands of the Jehovah's Witness religion compared with other religions?

  by stapler99 in

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  2. friends

  i've been wondering how other religions, such as other christian denominations, would compare to the jw's in their time demands.. .

  i'll lay out the approximate hours per week below.

  (i know some of the meeting lengths have changed in recent years, and the bookstudy has been abolished.

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  stapler99

  I've been wondering how other religions, such as other Christian denominations, would compare to the JW's in their time demands.

  I'll lay out the approximate hours per week below. (I know some of the meeting lengths have changed in recent years, and the bookstudy has been abolished. ):

  Sunday: 2 hour meeting + 1 hour travelling and hanging about

  Tuesday (bookstudy): 1 hour meeting + 1/2 travelling, preparation, etc.

  Thursday: 1 hour 45 mins meeting + 1 hour travelling, preparation

  Miscellaneous field service (e.g. at weekends): 2 hours

  This adds up to 9 hours 15 minutes a week. More time could easily be spent in meeting preparation, and field service.

  Does anyone know round about the length of a Sunday service at a Christian church?
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  "Local Needs" Talks: The people who should really hear them are never there.

  by Open mind in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my whole life as a jw i've heard this refrain.

  "too bad so-and-so wasn't here for that local needs talk.".

  as an elder i would have a hard time putting my heart into writing up a local needs talk that was targeting one or two congregation members, knowing full well they probably wouldn't be there to hear it.. .

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  I do not remember what a single local needs talk that I attended was about. I never really realised they were supposed to be about congregation problems. If they were then they were stated in such vague terms that it was unrecognizable what they really were about.
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  Want to quit Bible study

  by confusedstudent in

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  2. friends

  hi i was just looking for some advice.

  i have been studying with the jw's for over a year now, and attended 2 memorials and the district/assembly conventions.

  at first, and up until very recently i truly believed what i was learning was the truth.

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  You haven't been wasting their time. If they hadn't been at your study, they would have been making up their field service time by knocking on doors. You have actually done them a favour because they would rather be at a study that be out in the cold getting rejection after rejection.
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  HELP! How do I FADE without being DF'D??

  by doubtful in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm in a tough position.

  i gave my last talk as an ms a couple of weeks ago, and i haven't been out in field service in well over a month.

  i "came out" to the closest people in my life...namely my gf and mother...i was also recently asked to step down from being a servant - largely because my heart was no longer in it and i couldn't stomach going from door to door peddling magazines and other literature full of lies and logical fallacies.

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  They can't disfellowship you just for not attending meetings and not going on the field service. The advice from others above, that you should not tell them what you think, is good. This way you can avoid being disfellowshipped for apostasy.
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  What evidence is there that revalation's babylon the great is christindom?

  by highdose in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i seem to recall that the jw evidence for this is very thin on the ground.

  they take one phrase about the "bride and bridegroom"never being heard again, and say that shows it must mean christidom.

  but thats one line out of an entire stream of discription that quite frankly could be about anything.

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  They identify it as "the world empire of false religion", unsurprisingly with no good evidence.

  They claim that false religion spread out from Babylon (maybe after the confusion of the languages). They say that similarities between religions in different parts of the world prove this. I doubt this would hold up to scrutiny. Similarities between religions are not surprising.
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  July 15th Watchtower - article on Russian court cases

  by stapler99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  apologies if a thread has been posted on this already but i didn't see anything.

  in view of the other articles in the magazine, about apostasy and shunning, what they have to say about the treatment of jehovah's witnesses in russia takes on a new light and shows the contradiction in their positions.

  some choice quotes:.

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  stapler99

  Apologies if a thread has been posted on this already but I didn't see anything. In view of the other articles in the magazine, about apostasy and shunning, what they have to say about the treatment of Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia takes on a new light and shows the contradiction in their positions. Some choice quotes:

  "The prosecutor said the government should ban Jehovah's Witnesses because they make people hate others and because they destroy families."

  "Another doctor said in court that he had studied more than 100 Witnesses in Moscow. He said that these Witnesses were mentally healthy and that after becoming Jehovah's Witnesses, they had more respect for other religions than they had before." (So why would they shun a former Jehovah's Witness who decided to join one of those other religions?)

  On the last page:

  THE COURT'S JUDGEMENT

  One accusation was that Jehovah's Witnesses destroy families. The judges decided that this was false. They said:

  "It is the resistance and unwillingness of non-religious family members to accept and to respect their religious relative's freedom to manifest and practise his or her religion that is the source of conflict." - Paragraph 111.(It seems as if the court had been misled.)