I LOVED this!!
~merfi
i read "cat in the hat" to zach tonight and became inspired.
you be the judge if it was "inpsired of demons", "inpsired of god", or just gas.
the sun did not shine.. it was a miserable day.. life seemed so empty.. just so cold and so gray.. .
I LOVED this!!
~merfi
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ok all time to get real.
child abuse is not limited to jw's.. if you truly want to stop child abuse first start with the family , and be honest we all have a relative that is a pedophile.. then protect your family from stranger danger.. don't just isolate to jw's.. expand and truly stop the child abuse world wide.
Anybody in?
Me me me me!!! I'm so done with this.... it's hopeless.
Let the shunnin begin!
~merfi (still trying to calm down)
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ok all time to get real.
child abuse is not limited to jw's.. if you truly want to stop child abuse first start with the family , and be honest we all have a relative that is a pedophile.. then protect your family from stranger danger.. don't just isolate to jw's.. expand and truly stop the child abuse world wide.
I have completely and utterly HAD IT with this!!! Normally, not too much upsets me, but when someone doesn’t GET IT, either because they don’t want to, or because the WT blinders are on so tightly that it’s impossible to get light in an otherwise ignorant part of their brain, I can’t just sit back and say nothing. This ignorance, circular reasoning and illogic is too much for me to bear. I’ve wanted to beat my head on my keyboard and mutter “idiot”, but I think perhaps a rebuttal or two would be a little more constructive. (as well, kinder to my keyboard…) I think jw is completely missing the issue; I don’t know what it will take to get through. I’ll make yet another attempt:
Do you know if a child molestor is lurking in the store waiting for your child to be apart from you?
It’s always a possibility. Just as it’s a possibility someone in the local congregation is waiting for the same opportunity. Odds are, though, that the molester in the store, if caught, would be prosecuted. The “brother” or “sister”? Not so probable.
Is walmart responsible to inform you if they hire a pedophile?
Not likely that they would (I don’t know, I don’t work there or know their policies), but if they do, the key words here are “inform” and “pedophile” – a labeled person. A KNOWN pedophile. What is the issue in this thread is the HARBORING of abusers -- known only to a pedophile’s victim and MAYBE a confided-in elder or friend… which goes nowhere because of the “two witness rule”. As well, it’s a person’s right and duty to know who in their locale is a “known pedophile” – websites, City Hall etc – a plethora of resources educate oneself.
Do you know if your childs teacher is gay or lesbian waiting for a chance to sexually assault your child?
This is offensive to me. Being gay or lesbian does not automatically predispose one to being abusive.
Is it the schools responsibility to inform you of all the gay and lesbians they hire?
Does it matter? See above response.
Do you know if your next door neighbor whom you have known 30 + yrs. is waiting for the opportunity to molest and kill your child?
See my comments under your first and second questions.
Is it the neighbors responsibility to inform you of pedophiles in your neighborhood?
I would say so, yes. As well, it’s your own responsibility to investigate online, records of known sex offenders.
I am not trying to be insensitive just realistic.
I disagree – on the “realistic” end of things. You’re presenting a lot of strawmen, red herrings and circular reasoning in many of your posts, including this one. What is realistic is that there ARE pedophiles in the congregations of JW. What we are trying to TELL you is that because of the two-witness “rule”, most of these perverts do not get to the proper legal channels, freeing them to abuse again and again. THAT is realistic. Yes, perhaps there are the occasional ones that do get properly prosecuted, imprisoned – but the percentage is much much too small.
It is the parents primary duty to protect their children!
Obviously. But many of us entrust our children to the “friends”, the “brothers” and “sisters” in the congregation, unknowingly endangering our children to unknown pedophiles.
I never said not to take legal action when necessary against the organization.
Would you personally do this? If a member of your congregation came to you and told you “mommy, brother so&so gave me a big hug. He hugs me a lot and really tight, and breathes on my hair funny, but mommy this time he also put his hand up the back of my shirt onto my bare back and was rubbing it. It made me feel funny. I told him so, and he said not to say anything to anyone about it.” What would you do, jw, what would you DO??
I just don't think you all resorting to bashing the organization is the proper way .
I don’t feel that this is “bashing the organization”. People here are expressing their very real situations. Situations that occurred and were ALLOWED to occur under the veil of “theocracy” and protecting the Org at all costs.
You can criticise the Jw organization till you are blue in the face.
Or until something finally changes.
If child abuse is so active in the organization your efforts would serve a better purpose by catching
the crimminals in the act.
Yes, this would be ideal, as well as fulfilling the two-witness rule. However, it’s also quite unrealistic. “catching the criminals in the act” should equal having the testimony of one person, the abused, considered and believed. And the consequences be an investigation by the law, prosecution and imprisonment. (or in my own personal opinion, castration… but I digress)
Keep your enemies close.
Thank you, I will and I do. I know who in my town is in the sex offender registry, I know who in my in-law’s town are sex offenders, I know who the sex offenders are in my entire county and have access to those who are sex offenders in my entire state. But I’m guessing that the elder in the next county, who has a ‘thing’ for children, who considers himself my ‘friend’ as well as the ‘friend’ (ie NOT “enemy”) of my children, is NOT on that sex offender registry.
A video or pics are worth more than mere words.
Of course. Again, quite unrealistic – if this was indeed a great possibility, each and every one of us would be trying to accomplish this. But it just isn’t logical.
Witnesses a must.
Ah yes, the two-witness rule. In the REAL world, outside of the JW cult, it does not take witnessES, it takes one.
Channel your energy more wisely.
I’m sure we will all channel our energies and passions into this until it is changed to protect our children. We feel this IS a wise channeling, until there are changes. We will be telling our stories to release our deep pains and to inform and protect one another. Eventually, we hope with every beat of our heart, our voices will be finally heard and this horrible JW policy will evaporate, freeing the currently abused children and preventing the abuse of our future babies.
"i read everything i could get my hands on, from secular scholarship to apologists, hoping and praying that christianity was the truth.
i had no choice but to come to the logical conclusion that christianity was untrue.
i actually went around for a while thinking i would go to hell because i no longer believe in jesus.'.
I'm still lazily searching (as I'm not in any big hurry) for what I believe. For now, this quote in your list really fits and hit home for me when I read it:
I am more confident in my unbelief than I ever was in my faith.
this woman has just got to get back on track!
hehehee.
i feel much better now...hehehe.... :) i wish i were already a witness though.................... it breaks my heart that i've messed up like i have and have gotten off track!
make the link NOT clickable
The way to do this is to right-click & "open in new window" or copy/paste the addy.
~merfi
husband invited the neighbors over for a grill out....... .
now, i just make up everything as i cook.
i never use a recipe.
Basic crap for tater salad:
That's my no-fail (as well as no-measure) recipe. I don't cook from recipes either.
~merfi
this woman has just got to get back on track!
hehehee.
i feel much better now...hehehe.... :) i wish i were already a witness though.................... it breaks my heart that i've messed up like i have and have gotten off track!
Merfi, that is interesting what you said about the stamp on her site from the people who visit. Did I get that right? Is she just a very sad, confused girl or a ploy to help to identify more of us happy little apostates.To be honest, I can not be certain why she is writing to our site if she is fully convinced in the belief system of the dubs.
Something feels a bit off with this one and if I am wrong please accept my apologies.
I'm sorry -- I wasn't clear on this.... I don't think she is writing to us (unless I also missed something). What I meant was, in msn spaces, the space owner can go into their space statistics and see how many hits they're getting on their pages (blog, pics, lists etc) It shows a list of which pages the visitor has visited and shows from which URL they are visiting. So, if we click her msn space link from the post here, it shows that we came FROM here, leaving the URL of http://www.jehovahs-witness.com and the rest of the post address as a footprint in her stats. It's clickable, so if she's curious as to who's visiting, she can come back here and check us out. A good thing, I think...
I need more caffeine or something. Got Blonde Moments going on, so if that still didn't make sense, sorry.
this woman has just got to get back on track!
hehehee.
i feel much better now...hehehe.... :) i wish i were already a witness though.................... it breaks my heart that i've messed up like i have and have gotten off track!
I was just thinking... on these msn spaces, whenever someone goes to visit, it leaves a URL 'stamp' on the visitor stats that she can see when she's signed into her space. So there are probably lots and lots of ones from here. Hopefully she's smart (*cough*) enough to figure out how to see the stats and gets curious enough to visit us.
~merfi
my ex was as cheap as they could get.
he took me to mcdonalds on our first date!
or some people wash out their ziplock bags and re-use them.
Not quite "cheap" but definitely some issues with money....
This family owns a janitorial business (big surprise) and the comment made by the boss/POelder was "it's disgusting how much money we're making" Nice.
~merfi
this woman has just got to get back on track!
hehehee.
i feel much better now...hehehe.... :) i wish i were already a witness though.................... it breaks my heart that i've messed up like i have and have gotten off track!
hehehehe
She's 31?!?! Good lord, I've known some stupid people, but...
That poor fader.
~merfi