leolaia,.
being the resident scholar around here can you answer me a question.
first off i did read your extended piece on the cross.
Thank you everybody!
There are so many subjects to cover and the misdirection and mistruths can be difficult to filter out.
Leolaia, moggy, Atlantis, did I forget someone....
Anyway big big thanks...
Leolaia, I am going to have to re-read your post....again!
-r
leolaia,.
being the resident scholar around here can you answer me a question.
first off i did read your extended piece on the cross.
Leolaia,
Being the resident scholar around here can you answer me a question. First off I did read your extended piece on the cross. Well done, and I apologize if you covered this in that and I just didn't catch it.
Here goes.....
Below is a quote from the "Reasoning Book" under the heading of cross.
*** rs p. 89 par. 1 Cross ***
The Greek word rendered "cross" in many modern Bible versions ("torture stake" in NW) is stau·ros´. In classical Greek, this word meant merely an upright stake, or pale. Later it also came to be used for an execution stake having a crosspiece.
It states that "In classical Greek, this word meant merely an upright stake"
Now is that dishonest?
Isn't it true that "classical Greek" is generally Attic Greek which was written about the 6th to 4th century BC and was more strict in meaning, but Koine Greek which was the language the NT was written in was less specific in word meanings?
Thanks in advance!
-r
i recently obtained the 1995 wt library cd-rom and have been trying to get it to work.
it took a few attempts to get it to install but i keep on getting an abormal program termination when i try to use it.
i figure there are configuration issues since it's so old.
I got it working on xp in about 10 minutes.
Steps,
Before installing select the setup.exe file on the cd and set compatability mode, Windows95 and check the 3 check boxes below.
Apply
Run Setup.exe
Remember that the install path should have no SPACES. If you want it in program files put c:\progra~1\wtlib_95 or whatever.
After it is installed set the same compatability options on the Main shortcut.
It appears that it won't paste to notepad but will to wordpad, that could just be a weird thing with my machine but I don't have time to test it more.
Just in case you doubt, this is from the Babylon book....
Hope this helps guys, and Finally I get to put my talents to work.
-r
"Babylon TheGreatHas Fallen!"—God’s KingdomRules!*** bf 3-5 "Babylon The Great Has Fallen!"-God's Kingdom Rules! ***
"He has executed judgment upon the great harlot who corrupted the earth with her fornication, . . . Hallelujah! because Jehovah our God, the Almighty, has begun to rule as king."—Revelation 19:2, 6, NW, margin of 1950 edition.
DEDICATED to God the Almighty, Who Causes the Fall of Babylon the Great In the Eternal Interest of True Religion
Abbreviations
oftranslationsofHisWordquotedorcitedherein:AS
– American Standard Version Bible, by the American Committee of Revision, of 1901AT
– The Complete Bible: An American Translation, by J. M. P. Smith and E. J. Goodspeed, of 1939AV
– Authorized or King James Version Bible, of 1611Dy
– Roman Catholic English translation of the Latin Vulgate made at Douay and Rheims, as of 1610Kx
– The Holy Bible, translated by Monsignor R. A. Knox, as of 1949Le
– The Twenty-four Books of the Holy Scriptures, by Rabbi Isaac Leeser, as of 1853LXX
– The Greek Septuagint translation of the Hebrew Scriptures, as published by S. Bagster and Sons Limited, LondonMo – A New Translation of the Bible, by Dr. James Moffatt, as of 1922
i was reading a little coc last night where ray f. disusses the witch hunt at bethel that resulted in all the oustings.
as i read the doctrines that he questioned, (not judging him right or wrong), i noticed that he was questioning some of the fundamental beliefs of the wt.
ie: gov.
I don't know if he was in denial.
As I journy along on my path out I find myself conflicted on many things. I want to scream out what I know sometimes, but know that doing so I would lose alot. I sometimes try to interject logical reasoning and truth into witness discussions without being blatent because I hope eventually ones I care about will wake up. When you get at odds with someone (a jw) you think, "why can't you see this? It is so plain" and they probably think the same thing. It is like trying to wake up some one and they start fighting with you, do you as a wake person fight back or do you try to calm them and help them and kindof look at them a little funny cause they are fighting for no reason.
I tend to think that most of us when we, come to a realization of the real truth, we ask our selves how we could not have seen this before. As the ORG says time and again it is hard to contain these new truths and when people become advisarial with us we are shocked.
I guess it is just hard to understand everyones situation and why they do certain things.
Also the translation of thoughts into words is sometimes difficult, so despite the best efforts of the author somethings don't get conveyed well to all readers.
Well that is just my POV.
-r
the insert is called "how do i view blood fractions and medical procedures involving my own blood?
" i will attempt to transcribe the more salient points for everyone here.. paragraph 1 (verbatim): the bible commands christians to "abstain ... from blood.
" (acts 15:20) thus, jehovah's witnesses do not accept transfusions of whole blood or the four primary components of blood-namely, red blood cells, white blood cells, platelets, and plasma.
We as Jehovah's Witnesses guided by our bible trained conscience find it unacceptable to eat alphabet soup. No matter how hungry we are.
BUT
We can eat the individual letters from alphabet soup in the following list (a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z) if our conscience allows us.
We cannot by any means eat someone elses alphabet soup
If while we are eating we vomit some alphabet soup we can eat that.
By doing this we bring praise and honor to our GOD Jehovah.
We are TRUE christians because we don't eat alphabet soup! Prais Jah!
-r
i just had an idea, i doubt it is original but thought i would throw it out there.
it time to play send a jw on a wild goose chase.
do you know someone who doesn't like witnesses?
parakeet, Sorry if I gave you the idea that I was angry, I am not. I just thought about it and thought it would be funny. I could imagine how I would have felt if I had gotten a slip with someones address from an elder and went to call on them and they started asking why I was there and getting mad and such. Then going back to the elder and telling him what happend. LOL Sorry you don't share my same sense of humor.
i just had an idea, i doubt it is original but thought i would throw it out there.
it time to play send a jw on a wild goose chase.
do you know someone who doesn't like witnesses?
I just had an idea, I doubt it is original but thought I would throw it out there. It time to play send a JW on a wild goose chase. Do you know someone who doesn't like witnesses? OR Do you have a neighbor who gets on your nerves? Go here https://watch002.securesites.net/contact/submit.htm and enter their contact info. Sit back and wait. I bet if enough people do this we could get them to change or take down that page after a bunch of reports filter back about supposedly interested ones gripe the witnesses out. LOL -r
i am a fader for those of you who don't know.. i have been avoiding field service as much as possible, less than once a month for the past 3mos.. anyway, last saturday i did not have any way of not going out with my wife (she is unaware).
so i go out.. these days i only read scriptures to people, encouraging ones.. well, wouldn't you believe i got the only person pissed at witnesses that day.
when i asked if i could read a scripture, he said he didn't mind the scripture but did mind people comming onto his property and telling him that their faith was better than his.
Good idea Honesty,
Oh, and by the way, I don't wear polyester suits. In fact
I wear some really nice suits, ties, and shoes.
I even have a really nice tie I got from my trip to Croatia (the birthplace of the tie/cravat) earlier this year.
I try to look good.
-r
i am a fader for those of you who don't know.. i have been avoiding field service as much as possible, less than once a month for the past 3mos.. anyway, last saturday i did not have any way of not going out with my wife (she is unaware).
so i go out.. these days i only read scriptures to people, encouraging ones.. well, wouldn't you believe i got the only person pissed at witnesses that day.
when i asked if i could read a scripture, he said he didn't mind the scripture but did mind people comming onto his property and telling him that their faith was better than his.
I am a fader for those of you who don't know.
I have been avoiding field service as much as possible, less than once a month for the past 3mos.
Anyway, last saturday I did not have any way of not going out with my wife (she is unaware). So I go out.
These days I only read scriptures to people, encouraging ones.
WELL, wouldn't you believe I got the only person pissed at witnesses that day. When I asked if I could read a scripture, he said he didn't mind the scripture but did mind people comming onto his property and telling him that their faith was better than his. I was shocked but wanted to laugh at the irony as well.
He shut the door just as I told him that I did not think that my faith was better nor did I tell him that.
I did try to use the experience to discuss with my wife why someone whould have that feeling about the JW's. We even discussed where we would have ended up if both of us were not raised in JW families.
I just thought about the odds that ME someone trying to get out, only going out once every two months or so, gets the pissed off JW hater.....LOL
I think I will go back to him alone and explain things and how to handle witnesses and questions to ask.
-r
i just read this as part of one of jgnat's posts its obviously nothing against her take a look and comment.i mean who are they trying to fool.
out of all creation they are "groaning" the most .
our identification as jehovah's witnesses .
Can you post a link to that post please Just want to get a reference to where this quote came from. Thanks,
