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  What planted the seed of doubt that lead you to leave or think of leaving?

  by NanaR in

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  i've been thinking of this a lot lately.

  the following experience ties my first doubt in with my present life.

  as a backdrop to this, you should know that i was a 5th generation "raised in the truth" jw through my mother (her great-grandfather got "the truth" from pastor russell).

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  under_believer

  Mine was the same as DannyBloem's. I had doubts all my life, but was a very faithful Witness.
  
  But the impossibility of the flood really started getting to me as an adult and that was the first real seed of doubt.
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  Has anyone ever met any members of the Governing Body?

  by *jeremiah* in

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  has anyone ever met any members of the governing body?.

  when i was 11 my family and i took a trip to new york and visited bethel or whatever.

  we took a tour through the, i think it was called the home office or something.

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  I met (and accidentally bodily tackled to the ground) Fred Franz.
  
  I know and have gone out in service with Guy Pierce (though I doubt he remembers me.)
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  list allowable things with "pagan" origins here

  by rebel8 in

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  i'm interested in developing a list of things jws are allowed to do that have "pagan" or otherwise "evil" origins in the eyes of the wts.

  what types of things are you aware of?

  so far i've got...... red lip stick (allegedly invented to distinguish prostitutes from non-prostitutes).

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  under_believer

  For this thread to be effective and meaningful, anyone posting should post proof that the pagan thing they're posting is actually pagan. A link to a wikipedia page or other independent research posted online, or even to a book, would be helpful.
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  JW's give advice on how to get rid of apostate literature

  by unbeliever in

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  i know we have had threads on this board about getting rid of jw literature.

  they make a lot of the same suggestions, throw it away, use it as liner for the pets, etc but some of their suggestions are down right hilarious.

  one poster said the literature should be dipped in acid and one poster said she wipes her dogs butt with apostate literature.. http://ewatchman-exposed.co.uk/research/read.php?t=2196&reply=13#msg13.

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  unbeliever, yeah, I've followed the Mavos thing. They really have it in for him.
  
  What's ironic is that everyone on that board just WORSHIPS 3w. They love him: every post he makes is followed by many "GREAT POST 3w!" type responses. He accuses e-Watchman of starting a cult, but make no mistake: 3w has a whole cadre of followers, and it's obvious what his motivation for posting there is.
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  Would Jehovah recognize you

  by darth frosty in

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  here is another lame a$$ email from a dub (how is it the only use they can think of for the internet is to regurgitate these lame parable's.).

  warning have your barf bags ready.. .

  this is very thought provoking.

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  under_believer

  This was told at a special assembly day in my circuit. To quote Shrek: "What a load of..." *flushing sound*
  
  I don't think I need to break it down for anyone: its manipulative, controlling nature, its use of logical fallacy, and its complete nullification of everything Jesus is ever f___ing recorded to have said while he walked the earth should be obvious to anyone who has the eyes to see it.
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  Did demons ever really rape some sisters?

  by hambeak in

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  i had a conversation last night with someone and we were reminescing about the late 60's and early 70's about how a couple of the sisters were telling at the time that they were being molested and sometimes raped by demons.

  in our cong they were told to open the bible to a certain scripture and leave the bible open to it at all times and leave a light on.

  anyone else remember some of this paranoia?

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  I don't know where to start with this one.
  
  So I won't, except to say: No. Demons did not rape some sisters.
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  Gumby needs our prayers

  by oldflame in

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  about 5 months ago gumby had a knee operation, it never healed and the doctors here suck in a big way.

  so yesterday he and his wife went south to get a second opinion and maybe get this knee surgery healed up.

  so if you got it in you please pray for his speedy recovery and healing.

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  He needs our prayers for... knee surgery?
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  JW's give advice on how to get rid of apostate literature

  by unbeliever in

  1. jw
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  i know we have had threads on this board about getting rid of jw literature.

  they make a lot of the same suggestions, throw it away, use it as liner for the pets, etc but some of their suggestions are down right hilarious.

  one poster said the literature should be dipped in acid and one poster said she wipes her dogs butt with apostate literature.. http://ewatchman-exposed.co.uk/research/read.php?t=2196&reply=13#msg13.

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  under_believer

  I love reading EWE. It mostly functions as a platform for thirdwitness to blather about random topics and judge his fellow Witness posters (PLEASE EXAMINE WHERE YOU ARE HEADED! he remonstrates one unfortunate person who dared to think for himself) but there is also a wealth of retarded JW thinking.
  
  Thirdwitness also enjoys finding threads on here (he still lurks) and reposting them there. Minimus' recent thread asking people if they believed in God or the Bible is an example. That thread made EWE's constituency go into an orgasm of smug self-satisfaction.
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  Rock The Vote: my secret is discovered

  by under_believer in

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  a while back, i registered to vote.

  i even voted in our primary (nonpartisan issues only at this point--i'm still finding my "center.

  at the time, my wife asked me if all this voting stuff we were getting all of a sudden was some new thing the state was doing--maybe you just get enrolled to vote when your drivers license renews, or something.

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  under_believer

  Kudra, it's Hugo Weaving playing Agent Smith from The Matrix. I kinda miss Aang, though. I might bring him back. He was happier. This guy reflects my current state of mind so well, though.
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  Rock The Vote: my secret is discovered

  by under_believer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a while back, i registered to vote.

  i even voted in our primary (nonpartisan issues only at this point--i'm still finding my "center.

  at the time, my wife asked me if all this voting stuff we were getting all of a sudden was some new thing the state was doing--maybe you just get enrolled to vote when your drivers license renews, or something.

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  under_believer

  Warlock, that QfR is what my wife and I found a while back, what made us decide it was nominally a "conscience matter." However as others have pointed out it's understood that this is a concession for Witnesses in mandatory-vote nations. At the very least, other Witnesses would take a very dim view of us if they knew we were voting. I personally think (depending on the BoE, and we have a very conservative BoE) we'd be marked.
  Based on that QfR, I doubt we'd be DF'ed or be considered DA, but anything is possible.
  Trust me, there isn't a sudden organization-wide acceptance of voting.