Wow. If this is true, this is on another whole level. This equates to murder, period. Can someone back this up?
j
compound complex has a thread that starts with the words persecution wanes.
in it he states:.
"after the judge's death, as world war ii was ending and persecution against the witnesses began declining, along .
Wow. If this is true, this is on another whole level. This equates to murder, period. Can someone back this up?
j
how do we know that bethel and other congregations monitor this site?
is this confirmed.
and if so i am assuming all those monotoring must be doubtful as well.
I would tend to agree with Arthur on this one. If bethel does in fact "assign" anyone to monitor this site, it would only be some dyed in the wool old timer who won't budge no matter what evidence is presented. I see no big bethel fallout because of it.
j
anyone else looking forward to this besides me?.
i sure hope arrmmaaggeeddoonn doesnt come before this comes out.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/scifi.shtml
This is cool. I was a big fan when I was a kid. I believe the 4th Doctor was the best.
j
thankyou so much for all the good wishes you have sent us in the last few days, trev has been printing up the emails, pms and threads, and bringing the cards to show me every day, and i get a lift every time i see him coming in with more of your lovely messages to read.. it's been a tough time for both of us, and it won't get any easier.
i am dreading chemo, to be honest, but i have to bear it, as i would anything that gives me hope.
but that's for monday, and i am going to enjoy myself as much as i can this weekend.
Great to have you back, Linda!
j
dear all,.
i've thought long and hard before writing this - which came about after linda (fullofdoubtnow), who is suffering from pancreatic cancer, was recommended alternative treatments to mainstream medicine.
i believe i am in a strong position to know just how effective many (most/all?
Good info and post, Ian. I'm glad your here with us! As you are one of my favorite posters here.
j
when you hear that old brother so-and-so died or that sister elder's wife is very ill, do you feel bad?--------- like you want to call the family, see the sick former friends?
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There exist a few I still do truly care about, so certainly it would trouble me if something were to happen to them. Although I swore I would never attend the KH again, I would most likely attend their services. I feel it is very important to be the better person in these type of situations.
j
why i stopped apologising for the watchtower society - part 1. .
in response to requests for information on why i stopped being an apologist for the organisation, i have decided to write the following article.
what is written is not meant to attack the beliefs of jws, but rather to show why i personally came to the conclusion that i could no longer support the organisation.
Great experience, Gumb! So similar on several levels to my own experience.
j
when i lived farther up country..i had a car load of dub ladys come to the ranch..i told them they supported an organization that would kill everyone but jw`s.thats what i was taught when i was a kid..they said "no",that decision will be made at armageddon..??
?..i figuered "theocratic warefare stratagey"..they were lying to me!.....i talked to my mom a few years later and made the same comment..she said "no,that decision will be made at armageddon.??
?.this is the person that taught that doctrine to me.i just rolled my eyes.more "theocratic warefare stratagey".that woman woud lie in a heart beat for the wbt$.....yesterday the subject came up on a thread and hillary_step said the comment is true.....hillary and i have been friends for years,he totally blew me away..i could`nt believe what i was reading..he said the change had been made in the "90`s".....so now i have some questions for those who are more up to date on this subject than i..hillary_step,if your kick`n around please chime in.......#1:when did the wbt$ decied to quit preaching only the jw`s would get into the new system?..#2if you no longer need to be a jw to get into the new system,why bother?..#3:dieing at armageddon because your not a jw,was a gun to your head to join the jw`s.what do they use now?.....this isn`t the same religion i walked away from decades ago..this,the un scandel,the generation change,blood factions now acceptable..the wbt$ is morphing before our eyes and jw`s dont see it..lol!
Just another example of witnoid doublespeak.
Restrangled, your criteria is basically correct, just don't forget that no "faithful" witness is guaranteed anything either.
j
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they view individuals who leave the truth as weak malcontents that share no appreciation for god or spiritual matters.
Good topic, Wanderer.
Many people who leave, don't necessarily leave because of doctrinal issues, or because they want to live "immoral" lives, (like myself). They just come to a point in thier lives, where they strongly sense something is amiss in the organization, and just stop. Too many issues, and very little seems to make any sense. When one comes to that division in the road, it is quite possible that he/she may find themselves doing things that they otherwise wouldn't have done, when "in". Those in this category often come to point after a short while when they want answers. I know that is what happened to me, and I ended up finding this place. Only then did I learn of the doctrinal issues, child molestation issues, etc. What I learned rather quickly, was that I wasn't crazy, and there really was something very wrong in the org.
j
just recieved a e-mail from a active jw friend.
my mom was talking to a friend from bethal and they were talking about the number of the 144,000 that are left(..... and i talked briefly about this)and how they feel that there are actually less then 800and remember .....i said there had been a talk or something on it?
well i guess it was a wt article that we studied(well i knew i had heard it somewhere!
I'm wondering if that 800 was actually a typo that became misinformation passed on, considering that the number usually hovers right around 8000.
That's how it immdiately struck me.
j