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  2013 Report - difference in av. pubs compared to % of baptisms

  by likeabird in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just took the first page of the 2013 report and added two new columns to look at alternative ways of calculating the 'increase'.

  first column: 2013 av.

  pubs minus 2012 av.

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  Gayle

  U.S.: 85 avg. pubs/cong. 183 attendance/Memorial/cong. So, 98 non-pubs attended Memorial. Everyone gets excited about Attendance number. Of these, the cong. has to get 3 attenders for year to become publishers (whether new or reactivated) to get at least an increase of 1% (the increase noted last two years each) (avg. cong. odds that one pub. will die and one will be DF'd)

  Pubs. avg. .6 Bible study, so avg. cong. has 52 Bible studies. Avg. cong. had 2.3 baptized.

  Avg. cong. has 11 reg. pios. and 5 aux. pios/mo. Avg. pub (aside from Pios) is 9.8 hr/mos. Population Ratio was same for 2013 as 2012: 1 pub to 262 U.S. pop.
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  2013 Report - difference in av. pubs compared to % of baptisms

  by likeabird in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just took the first page of the 2013 report and added two new columns to look at alternative ways of calculating the 'increase'.

  first column: 2013 av.

  pubs minus 2012 av.

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  Gayle

  This is about 'Bible Studies,' showing continual increases, however, baptisms not increasing by comparison:

  Worldwide:
  
  Bible Studies Baptized
  2007 6,561,426 298,304 4.5%
  2008 7,133,760 289,678 4.1%
  2009 7,619,270 276,233 3.6%
  2010 8,058,359 294,368 3.7%
  2011 8,490,746 263,131 3.1%
  2012 8,759,988 268,777 3.1%
  2013 9,254,963 277,344 3.0%
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  U.S.:
  
  2007 546,631 37,243 6.8%
  2008 603,313 35,597 5.9%
  2009 657,544 34,739 5.3%
  2010 683,090 35,120 5.1%
  2011 714,151 32,953 4.6%
  2012 722,179 32,039 4.4%
  2013 723,326 32,118 4.4%
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  Reorganization Branches Belgium and The Netherlands

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the belgium branche of jw in kraainem will be closed.. the netherlands branche of jw in emmen will be reorganized into an ict devolpment office.. all the oldtimers jw staff in emmen is told they have to leave, they are dismissed.. of course it will be explained that the organization is on the move, a blessing from jehovah.. gorby.

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  Gayle

  Neither country grew in JWs as noted on 2014 Service Report,,the Yearbok reportws 91 branches, but does this bring it down to 89? Wonder what country is next?
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  What's the next big organizational change you predict could happen?

  by Island Man in

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  2. friends

  yadda yadda 2 predicted a change in the bookstudy arrangement.

  what future changes do you predict could/would happen?.

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  Gayle

  not a big deal,,but they could easily make 30 hr aux. pio. available 'every' month of year.
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  New World Translation 2013 on EBay

  by startingover in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there are several of the new bibles on ebay, but here you can buy the whole box of 32. i don't know if this link will show the original listing, you may have to click on that to see the description.

  i wonder where these came from, the description seems a bit strange.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/case-of-32-2013-new-world-translation-of-the-holy-scriptures-watchtower-bible-/261362288068?pt=lh_defaultdomain_0&hash=item3cda6805c4&nma=true&si=cb4ceo6bt8tstei2ousxlhx8hva%253d&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557.

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  Gayle

  one shows $19,,do you think the pubs are "donating" that much to the WTS to cover expense. Has anyone heard how many have been printed so far?
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  'Jehovah will provide' / some fish(y) stories! - WT April 15, 2014

  by bats in the belfry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  eduardo & family with kids will pioneer and survive on 10% of his regular income.. .. .

  page 24. .

  sort of reminded me of this guy: father of four quits job after attending annual meeting.

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  Gayle

  THE GB have no concept of personal poverty (even near poverty) with family> nO concept of food bills, rent, utilities, gas, car repair, dental, medical bills etc. etc. etc. Not once in the HQ did they have to worry about such things. Even the very poor provide for them.

  They say something like "there are rich people that are not happy." My word,, people in poverty are definitely not happy,,depression extremely high among very poor people. The children mirror their parents anxieties extremely.
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  2014 YB Up. Partakers 13,204

  by LostGeneration in

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  that is all.

  link.

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  Gayle

  most partakers are disqualified too because most are female,,females are good/quaified enough to 'reign' in heaven, but not goodqualified/ enough to 'govern' with the GB on earth.
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  US Publisher Growth And Inflation

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts.

  i believe official us figures on unemployment and inflation are 'managed'.. compare inflation in the us to jw publisher growth.

  how do they keep pace with expenses?

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  Gayle

  They are dumping Bethelites in the street, but added 1,107 additional (no doubt younger and healthier) ordained ministers (5% increase). The HQ increased 8.7% in funds for spec. pios, missionaries & T.O.s.
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  1914 countdown card in 2014 Yearbook

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the 2014 yearbook has a scan of the 1914 countdown card.

  it does not say whether this was published by the watchtower or independently, so please let me know if you have any further information about it.

  in typical offensive fashion, the yearbook blames the members rather than themselves for the false expectations held for 1914.. some bible students even carried a countdown card so that they could mark off each passing day.

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  Gayle

  Amazing
  
  THIS chart was not done by someone"s personal hand chart>>THIS was 'machine' printed,,people didn't have Excel then to do some 'individual' chart like that. Wish there was some way to investigate who did it?.. I suspect very much it was done at BEthel.
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  Worst yb experience I have ever heard heartwrenching

  by Skinnedsheep in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  he sold his bicycle.

  malachi, an elder who lives in burundi, earned his living by farming and by transporting loads on his bicycle.

  in order to support their kingdom hall construction project, malachi decided to be at the construction site every day.

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  Gayle

  Yearbook : http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/ pages in back, 175-187

  The experience could have been made up in part,,though could be partially so,,it is so irritating, that the HQ puts such out to manipulate people that are ekeing by,,especially as so much is sent on to HQ to build new buildings with all the comfort, only for many with less to give to such a lie.