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  Hello

  by Garrett in

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  hello forum,.

  i'm new here and not sure where to post.

  so, i'm 21 years old and currently a baptized witness, however, i'm slowly making my mind up to leave and here's why.. first, there are certain things that make no sense to me in the organization.

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  Hortensia

  I just want to say I suffered from severe depression as a JW. I finally gave up just because I was so depressed I couldn't function. I figured I was going to be burnt toast at armageddon anyway. Amazingly, the longer I stayed away from meetings, the better I felt! And when I felt better I could be more logical about JWs and religion in general.

  
  I say, don't go back to the meetings. You don't want to get to the point I was at if you can avoid it, so give it all up now and go find a more interesting life.
  
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  Books/texts/scriptures mentioned in the bible , though not incorporated in the bible cannon .

  by smiddy in

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  if a bible writer / scribe refers to a particular book text or scripture by name , for one reason or another, shouldn`t that be a legitimate reason for including it in the bible cannon as a part of the bible ?.

  just how many texts , books, scriptures are left out of the old testament bible that are mentioned there in and how many, if any are their in the new testament..

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  I am glad to see this list -- was thinking of something like this recently after reading a book about Noah's ark, Gilgamesh and so on, which briefly mentioned one of these books.

  
  How many of them still exist? It would be interesting to read more about the documents on the OP's list. Is there a book or two written about the subject? Any recommendations?
  
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  My sister was invited to a Judicial Committee

  by opusdei1972 in

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  today i called to my sister and she told me that two elders went to her house to announce her that a judicial committe is waiting her in the kingdom hall this friday.

  she told them that she will confirm if she will go.

  however, i have told her that she shouldn't go, instead she should ask them to write a formal letter, with signatures, asking her for which charges she should be submitted in a private room with two men (or three?

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  Why doesn't she just tell them to go fuck themselves?
  
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  Atheists and Agnostics: Will You Be Attending the Jehovah's Witnesses Circuit Assembly in Georgia USA this Sunday (25 January 2015)

  by jwleaks in

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  albany herald.

  tuesday, january 20, 205. albany an assembly meant to bring the lessons of the bible into practical terms for everyday life is being conducted in albany by the jehovahs witnesses community this weekend.. a one-day assembly is planned to start at 9:30 a.m. and end shortly after 4 p.m. on sunday.

  taking place at the albany civic center, it will include bible-based talks, demonstrations and interviews from the circuit assembly of jehovahs witnesses as part of their 2014-15 program.. the theme is keep seeking jehovahs righteousness, which is based on matthew 6:33.. everett berry, spokesman for the event, said the assembly is a semi-annual event attracting witnesses and non-witnesses from florida and southern georgia.. sessions will take place concerning biblical principles and how they can be applied to school or work.

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  Oh dear. I'm so sorry. I seem to have a conflict in my schedule. I won't be able to make it this year. In fact, I haven't been able to attend any of your little events, even though the invitations are so enticing, for let's see now, the last 33 years.
  
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  TO THE STUPID ATHEISTS:

  by atheist_R_stupid in

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  being that this is not "ex jws" and in fact, more driven by atheists talking a bunch of crap, im not even going to address you people like you know anything about jws because you dont.

  nor am i going to assume you know the bible because none of you do.. and yes, im speaking down at you all because you men have actually went out your way to make a site to speak down at an entire group of people.

  yet i bet you cant even handle a single uswer talking down at you, like you talk down about jws can you?.

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  Well, I think this is more of a Miss Manners kind of problem. When someone in a group blurts out something so ignorant, so idiotic, so abysmally embarrassing, if the person were capable of embarrassment, the kind and polite thing to do is pretend he/she never said it at all. Turn to your neighbor and ask how his roses are doing. Has he tried Epsom salts which you've heard some gardeners use? Or, as kind Nicolau did, mention a really good restaurant meal and change the direction of the conversation. It gives the asshole, er, poor unthinking person, a chance to recover his balance and save face.
  
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  Informative and interesting website recommendations please.

  by nicolaou in

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  i've got into a bit of a rut visiting the same half dozen or so sites most of the time.

  i'd love to hear your suggestions for good sites featuring popular science (esp' astronomy and evolutionary biology), natural history, poetry and english literature.

  and anything fun and surprising you might like to spring on me would be welcome too!

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  I like earthsky.org and slooh.com

  
  
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  Thought I would introduce myself

  by WateredDown in

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  i have read the site with great interest over the last few weeks.

  some interesting stuff thats for sure.. i have left the jehovah's witnesses (was almost going to say the 'truth') for some time now.

  i was one of the lucky ones that was baptised then faded, no humiliating disfellowshipping but nonetheless was very hard to get myself out.

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  I've been out for over 30 years. It seems the more they change, the less they change. They're more cultish, the wtbts, and more rigid, and more blatantly manipulative. And the doctrines seem to keep changing little by little. I think it's amazing that 1975 has just disappeared as far as the wtbts is concerned. The website seems ideal for them, jwdotorg, because nothing's in book/paper print. They can change at will, and the former teaching just disappears. But overall, it's the same old bullshit.
  

  
  

  ETA: I changed the name of the wtbts website because typing it correctly automatically creates a link to it! I don't want to give them free advertising.
  
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  Site update: Jan 17, 2015

  by Simon in

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  some quick updates, mostly cosmetic:.

  the message sending form should display better feedback of why a message is invalid (which will prevent the send button becoming active).. if your status is telling you that you have unread messages then you should see an option in the 'inbox' page to reset the count / mark all messages read.

  just press it once, be patient - marking the actual messages is done in the background.. the topic and post counts are being updated - some will still be incorrect while it processes the data but after that should be correct.

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  Hortensia

  Thanks for the "mark all messages read" doodad.

  Now, may we please have a way to delete all those old messages? No point in having them hang around, and I'm sure it would free up some space on your site.

  Thanks!
  
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  Watchtower Accused of Intellectual Dishonesty

  by wannaexit in

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  watchtower never learns.. i applaud dr. singh for speaking out and his open letter to watchtower.

  http://jwalumni.org/2015/01/17/rama-singh-awake/.

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  Thanks for the link. I shared it on facebook. I like the internet very much, especially when it exposes bullshit like this article in the Awake magazine.
  
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  troll_R_stupid

  by Coded Logic in

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  a guide to getting people to take you seriously - 10 tips for all you dummies.

  ) do your best to insult everyone's intelligence and upset them as much as possible.

  personal attacks are especially effective at getting people on your side..

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  Hortensia

  Insult people and then tell them they have no sense of humor when they object.

  Go on the attack (verbally) and then pretend to be the victim.

  Play the victim card on all occasions.

  Write a long post about how awful everyone is on the forum and how you're never posting here again. Then lurk and read the responses to your thread. Especially good if you think people will beg you not to leave.

  Recant, so you can stir up more trouble and then write another I Quit post.