Thanks Summer
Thanks Dag. ayk, I am leaving out lots of details for time sake. I don't usually like to bring up the 'bad times' but sometimes it is important to show the WTBS for who they are. The DF arrangement is a death sentence.
tinker
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What was the first mean/unjust thing you saw as a JW that affected you?
by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit inthink back.
you can list more than one.
.it's ok. how did you rationalize the actions of others?
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What was the first mean/unjust thing you saw as a JW that affected you?
by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit inthink back.
you can list more than one.
.it's ok. how did you rationalize the actions of others?
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tinker
There have been many but the day my father was disfellowshipped was the most painfull up to that point. My dad was an 'unbeliever' but very supportive and loving toward my mom's JW beliefs. In 1958 he took our whole family from Calif to NYC for the Internation Convention at Yankee Stadium. The 'spirit' got to him and he suddenly announced that he was getting baptized. He had never been to a meeting, no Bible study, nothing. We returned home and he went to a few meetings but because he was a very shy and reserved man he stopped going. Over the years he continued to be very supportive toward us and our ministy. He also contributed $$ very generously.
Years passed, his health was bad and in 1979 he had heart surgery. He requested no blood out of respect for us and his doctor agreed to his wishs but things went bad and the doctors began to pressure him to take blood. He resisted for several days. He was barely coherent and we even kissed him goodby because they said he would not make it through the night. We went home to wait for the call to tell us he had passed. No call came and we returned to the hospital in the morning to see him awake and feeling better. What happened? The hospital chef administrators came and pressured him into accepting blood. He was very near death, in pain and desperate.
We were very upset. Any normal family would have been thanking God but Nooo we were JW and oh the Shame!!! Of course the elders came around sometime later and my mother told them about the B l o o d. They formed a commitee and within a short couple weeks they DF'd him. gawdamm religion The man was NEVER a witness in the first place. He got dipped in the Atlantic Ocean along with 2000 other zealots of the moment.
I was hearbroken and remember crying and screaming out loud to Jehovah...Why? How could this happen to the dearest man. He was at the weakest point of his life, was there no mercy or grace to cover his mistake.
There is much more I could write but to this day, it's one of my most painful experience. My father could not attend my wedding and years later upon his death, we held no memorial service for him. He really died the day the cult marked the DF on him.
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most disturbing movie scene you've seen?
by knock knock ini haven't seen this topic on here so i thought i'd.... hmmm, maybe it's because it's just too disturbing?
to me, the scene in saving private ryan - the two soldiers in the small upstairs room fighting hand to hand to the death (by stabbing).
i think that is the most disturbing thing i've seen on screen and there were plenty just in that film alone.
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tinker
I know this is silly but the Flying Monkey's in the Wizard of Oz gave me nightmares for years as a child. To this day, when I am sick and on cold meds the nightmare returns. Also anything with 'Midgets' please excuse my language, I know the PC term is Little People. I have reoccurring dreams about that little guy in the TV show Fantasy Island
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Thanksgiving menu.....
by ex-nj-jw inthought i'd share my thanksgiving menu:.
turkey.
baked ham.
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tinker
Deep fried turkey.....it's The Best very moist and easy on me cause my honey does it outside in 45min. I try to have everything ready, side dishes arrive with other guests, table set and me with a scotch to get my appetite started.
I also make a curry squash soup with creme fresh that is too die for.
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I Need Thanksgiving Dinner Help...
by skeeter1 inthis thanksgiving looks to be hectic.
we have out-of-town guests coming to stay with us.
in all, i'm planning on having 19 people for dinner.
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tinker
I've learned from the French, nothing wrong with buying side dishes. They often prepare a main dish and purchase from a charcuterie or delicatessen all the side dishes.
I love to cook and turkey is one of my favorites. We sometimes deep fry outside so my husband is in charge and that leaves me to try someting more complicated, like a soup or fancy dessert. When I do roast a turkey, I make a homemade dressing, stuffing outside the bird. Lots of mushrooms and dried cranberries. I love Sunset Magazine for recipes, always great. And most of the womens magazines have terrific tips and schedules to walk you through almost every step of the Turkey Day feast. From the grocery list to 3day ahead, 1day ahead, right down to setting the table and serving.
May all our dishes be Delish!
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Dead of Night
by RollerDave indead of night.. absence of light.
anxiety not slight.. i don't know, just sometimes in the dead of night it hits me and it sucks.. the years pile up, i don't have so big a pile as some, but they are harsh ones with lots of jaggy bits and cruel edges.. sux.. you pile up the years, but the thing is, when you collect the whole set, it's game over, and that just sucks.. maybe it's the season, the light fades, and the cold comes.
it creeps into your bones and you feel cold all the way through, like you'll never be warm again.. then there's times of warmth and laughter, but sometimes even those kind of ring hollow, the music takes on an unwelcome tinny quality and i lack the patience to listen to even one song all the way through.. old thoughts, old feelings, old conversations, locked on a disc for a device that is no longer made, in file formats for programs i have forgotten the names of.. a wealth of emotion, it meant so much at the time, yet now it collects dust in obsolescence and disuse.. streams of thought that lead nowhere but i didn't realize at the time, and now they are wasted and gone.
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tinker
Black bird singing in the dead of night....take these broken wings and learn to fly
I certainly can relate to yet another birthday. I hit 50 and it felt like my entire life had been a waste. I became 55 this year and my whole life seems ahead of me, open, free, adventures ahead and filled with ideas.
The space between 50 and 55 have been a painful journey but here I am, Free of Religion and over 21. YIPPY! Let the Scotch and Cigars begin.
oh and a little painting and artwork and travel too.
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I'm kinda shakey
by Dagney injust got off phone with newly appointed elder friend.
at the end of the conversation, he says, "you know dagney, we need to have the conversation...the one about meetings...i want to see you in the new system....i think about you every day, everyday!!".
i was all cheerful "sure!!!
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tinker
Hello Everyone, No, Dagneys elder friend does not have a crush on her. I know them both and I am here to set you straight. She asked me to offer my word on that. He is one big handsome complex fellow. He loves women with brains and Dagney has that. He is married to a lovely lady and they are very devoted. She and Dagney are close friends also. But he needs to hash out issues and Dagney is the kind of friend who listens and offers comments to lead you to a resolve.
I do belive he thinks of her everyday just as I think of her everyday. I understand his attachment because I would want her to live forever also.....that is if I believed in living forever. We often joke about the Red Light on top her head because she just draws people to her. Men are attached to her yes, my husband thinks of her everyday also and I'm not worried. I love that she can get him to open up and talk about feelings. Something I do not have a talent for.
I also understand her emotional reaction to his question about her meeting attendance. Her relationships with friends are very valuable to her. She does not wish to jepordise the bond they have. He can be stern and puts her on the spot and I know she would not react well. She could fear a backlash of cross words even. I do not think he would 'turn her in' that is not his style. But he could make her uncomfortable
Dagney and I have been best friends for many years and we each came to realise the Truth about the Troof from different perspectives yet right around the same time. It is not our wish to convert JW's into our view of the organization. We only hope others will come to the Truth about the Troof in their own way and time.
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My Favorite Field Service Restaurants and Coffee Spots
by Cheetos inyup good old sambo's restaurant, was great cause back in the day we could go there and for ten cents and of course a tip for the waitress we could have a bottomless cup of coffee and set there and bs most of the day, and then leave our tip and a watchtower and awake and count it as a placement.. .
there was this bowling alley called hill top lanes in my town, that me and a few of us would go to, we would force our selfs to hang with the friends for about an hour or so in field service then we would say that we have a few return visits we have to go to, we would get there and bowel a few games and drink a few beers and then call it a day and of course leave a few old magazines there.
and when i was really young me and this dude would go to the gray hound station and pass out a few tracts then play pin ball till about 1:00 pm and count the time.
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tinker
We would role into KFC at about 11am every Sat. I would order a small coffee and biscuit and the counter gal would ask 'would you like cole slaw with that? Always cracked me up, YUM, cole slaw and coffee
The manager was always grumpy because we took up the whole place and nobody ever got chicken, just coffee and biscuits. And the little kids, my kids, running around screaming and spilling honey on everything. Those were the days.
My in-laws have a rural territory so no coffee shops. They would break at an older sisters place. It started years ago as a potty break but these days, they don't even go door to door first. Every Wed is a covered dish party. A group of old folks go out to the old sisters place and just eat and socialize. A must better use of time.
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WT in the business of selling cars????
by observador ini just received an email from a friend with pictures of what seems to be a wt-approved or wt-connected used car business.. this friend is telling us that the cars being sold are those previously used by circuit overseers.
he's giving us some links and pictures, but i haven't had the time to investigate, so i thought to put them up here for discussion.. the web address of the business is, quite appropriately, www.circuitleasing.com.
here are the documents made available by this acquaintance of mine:.
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tinker
Who ever came up with this has a brilliant business mind. It's the bookbag business only better. Less inventory, bigger $$$'s.
Wow, you can get a Pocket Calendar from GAWD. Drive a car with angelic direction and impress family and friends, what's not to luve.
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The Average JW WILL NOT Leave!!!!
by minimus inyou could have stupid new light every week published and the vast majority aren't going anywhere.
you could see proof of contradiction after contradiction right in front of your nose, if you're a witness.
and you still won't budge.. the reason: mental and spiritual laziness.
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tinker
Everyone here is on the right tract and I would add.........they won't leave because they are told over and over, you are better than anybody else. They are very vain.