Posts by Lumptard

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Why was I so blind?

by James Free in

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now that i can see right through the crap that is the jw religion, i sometimes ask myself - how come you blindly believed all that rubbish for 30 years??!!

i am so annoyed with myself for that - i have a degree, yet i was totally duped for such a large part of my life.

and now that i can see how so full of holes it all is, i kick myself for not seeing it before.

Maybe I'm a little too cynical, but I don't beleive that anyone is ever deceived into beleiving what the JW's dish out. People (myself included) tend to beleive whatever they want to and whatever they can justify for themselves. Just because you used to beleive something that turned out to be false does not mean that you were deceived. You were just given false information and didn't bother to check it out 'till now (or whenever you discovered that it was false). The rhetoric hasn't changed...your viewpoint has. It is pretty obvious that JWs aren't what they claim to be and anyone who doesn't see that obviously doesn't want to see it for one reason or other. People should take responsibility for the decisions that they make as well as the reasons that they make those decisions instead of whining about it.

There is only one set of facts...If you don't go looking for the facts, then it is your own fault if you end up beleiving something that is false

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Who is GUILTY for the JW's killed in the concentration camps?

by Metamorphosis in

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obviously the nazi's hold bloodguilt in part for the jw's who died in the concentration camps.. but unlike jews who could not change who they were, could not become un-jew and would have been killed anyways, jw's were often offered release if they renounced their faith as a jw.. since it is obviously a false teaching they were led to believe - that their eternal salvation rested on being & staying a jw - does the governing body (leadership) hold some bloodguilt, are they accountable in some way, for the atrocities that fell upon jw's?.

or is it merely a principle thing - that no matter what religion/belief was held, one should not be asked to give it up at the whim of a dictator?.

does the individual jw hold any fault based on whether they refused to sign over principle of freedom of belief or whether it was fear of losing their salvation by leaving a certain denomination?.

Lumptard

zomfg definitely the dubz fault...'cause, lyke, if they weren't dubz, then they wouldn't have been killed....oh yeah, and blacks are partly responsible for slavery.

What the hell kind of logic is that?...is this a serious question, or are you just effing with us?

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The C word

by ness in

how do your minds work people??.

the word 'cult'.

who is comfortable saying they were raised in a 'cult' or were brainwashed temporarily by a 'cult'?.

Lumptard

nope...it is not technically a cult, so I don't call it one.

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anyone writing about Dave Madzay obviously never new him!!!!!!!!!!!!

by donna4174 in

i am writing because i am tired of people talking about rumours that they heard about dave madzay,he was the kindest , most intelligent man i ever new, yes he was df but only jehovah can judge him for things he did, no one else.he was an elder very high up in bethel who gave the most wonderful talks, helped many people,brought a lot of people into the truth and yet when he died not one jw attended his funeral.

how sad that a man who was so high up in bethel could be treated like this...........i was brought up in the truth until i was 15 , and turned away because of how dave was treated, even though dave had jehovah in his heart right up until his last breath and did everything he could do to be reinstated but sadly never was.........................i know i knew him

Lumptard

I am writing because i am tired of people talking about rumours that they heard about Dave Madzay,he was the meanest , dumbest man I ever new, no he was not df but only satan can judge him for things he did, no one else.He was an elder very high up in the church of satan who gave the most flamboyant talks, punched many people,brought a lot of people into the caverns of hell and yet when he died not one satanist attended his funeral. How sad that a man who was so high up in satan's glorious church could be treated like this...........I was brought up in lucifer's light until I was 15 , and turned away because of how Dave was treated, even though Dave had satan in his heart right up until his last breath and did everything he could do to be disfellowshipped but sadly never was.........................I never knew I knew the new news

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Paganism - bane or boon?

by Lone_Wolf in

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just want to see what you people think of this question...

-lone_wolf

Lumptard

neither...just another religion...

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Vocalization about being a JW v. being an XJW

by sweetface2233 in

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i know that a lot of jws are very proud of being jws, but ever since i can remember i would be very quiet about it.

i wouldn't announce it at school or work.

i would shy away from the subject.

Lumptard

nope...im the same as i was as a jw. if someone asks, i tell 'em. i am what i choose to be, no need to broadcast it.

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Should I pretend to be Christian right now because of where I live?

by tsunami_rid3r in

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why didn't i follow the way of jesus and go to bethel?

along with my other topic dealing with my searching for my place in this town, i come across plenty of people who follow their parents, go to church, and vote for bush and all that boring stuff.

at subway today, there was a large group of happy christians ordering their food.

Lumptard

if you have to ask.. then yes, you should

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Jesus is the answer!

by startingover in

i hope it worked.

my intent with the title of this thread was to attract both believers and non-believers.

whenever a thread appears promoting the wonders of jesus, it will inevitably develop into a back and forth discussion ad nauseam.. i was born into a family that believed there was a god, he had a son jesus and his word was the bible.