hahahah light a cigerette and blow it an elders face, i love you already man
keith
hahahah light a cigerette and blow it an elders face, i love you already man
keith
how many of us suffered in the jws from a lack of justice, love, or abuse of power by elders?
how did it make you question what you believed or had been duped into believing?
would be good to hear experiences so we can bounce ideas off each other on how it freed you from fear of authority or otherwise.
Too many to frigin name !
okay i am getting messages from gay exjw site message board that ray franz is back at meetings.
i cannot imagine this has a fragment of truth... has anyone heard about this?
can verify or otherwise?
Geez, I sure hope not, im reading one of his books at this time.
Who really knows if he is going back to meetings ? Not me
i would like to know just how many forms of identification does the congregation keep of who their members are?
is it just the publisher record card?
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They probably spy into your windows at night. Seeing if your doing anything not worthy of the organization.
They know everything about you, really.
i ordered crisis of conscience a few minutes ago !
i've heard many great things about this book for people who have left the jw religion and were having a hard time, like myself.
for those who read it, has it changed your life in any way ?
Im so happy right now, why ?
My order came in today, that's right, you guessed, the book.
Crisis of Conscience !
Hope to hear more about what people think of this book. I know i'll be posting about it a little more.
keith
my (ex)wife and i asssociated with a few other couples and was considered "popular".
how was your social life?
did you have much of one?
My social life as a witness ? One word
Conditional
i ordered crisis of conscience a few minutes ago !
i've heard many great things about this book for people who have left the jw religion and were having a hard time, like myself.
for those who read it, has it changed your life in any way ?
I Ordered Crisis of Conscience a few minutes ago ! It should be in around a week or 2 !
I've heard many great things about this book for people who have left the JW religion and were having a hard time, like myself.
For those who read it, has it changed your life in any way ? Personal thoughts please.
Thanks for the advice everyone, it's appreciated.
Im going to read that book Crisis of Conscience. I heard so many good things about it, im making it a goal to purchase one and read it.
keith
bear with me please.
a lot on my mind.
skip to the last couple of red paragraphs if you dont have time to read my ramblings.
Yet, I dont want to get D/A'd or D/F'd or be marked as bad association. I have close friends who say they will stick by me no matter what, but many who say they love me tell me that they would probably cave to the pressure if something like that happened
Well, it's time to face the facts !
Your going to be marked as bad association no matter what, if you leave. That's a for sure. You can't leave in an honourable way.
They would absolutely cave to the pressure if you quit going to meetings, yes, it doesn't matter how close they are to you, perhaps family can be an exception, if your lucky.
You might not get Df 'ed, or D/Aed, but you will certainly be labelled as someone who is " weak spritually" . And word will spread like wild fire, like it always does in the Org.
What to do ? Personally, Do the fade away ! Go to meetings every now and then, and over a time period just stop attending, that way it won't become such a shock to family members or close friends ! They will see it comming. Although, your going to hurt them regardless. But YOU have to do what makes YOU happy.
Staying in the JW organization just for family or friends isn't a good enough reason to stay in it. If anything, your not being true to your friends, family, and to them you wouldn't be staying true to God ! But most importantly, you wouldn't be staying true to yourself !
I had many friends in the organzation when I left, and family members, some even in bethel ! Now that im 20, im out. And even though it's difficult losing people so close to me, I can at least look in the mirror everyday and see an honest guy, an individual who stays true to himself.
Quit and never look back, it's a very dangerous mind controlling group. ! Best wishes and take it easy.
keith
hey hey!
been a while since i've started a topic.
i've been gone for a long time and just check in from time to time but i had to comment on this.. .
They can take their literature and shove it up their A$$.