When they told me to just meet men, they kept telling me that it was not necessarily permanent. I know, however, that it was necessarily permanent because they wanted every bit of sexual energy I had to be rechanneled into the Value Destroyer Training School and into rebuilding the whole organization so they would be able to start the Second Dark Ages. I would say they were caught in a blatant lie.
Wha?
so, i'm embarking on slow fade and i think it's time for me to start making friends w/ some non-jdubs so that i'll have a support network once i decide to be completely out and everyone ive ever known abandons me.
ive always gotten along much better w/ wordly people than jdubs so i'll haveno problem securing friends but im concerned about being to keep them.. i want out of the org for various reasons but i must admit i still believe many of the teachings.
i just think the leadership and organization itself is corrupt.
I have had no problems about making friends with the worldy's
This bugs the living sh*t out of me! Sheesh, people are people already get over the JW lingo, please! Sound like everyone except jdubs are aliens from a different planet.
nj
first you have to have an appreciation for the fact that it is an art form.. like an appreciation of music....endless possibilities...... then you have to start with good fresh bread, if you don't have that, you won't hit perfect.
hot or cold?
doesn't really matter...perfection can be found either way.
Ugh, you lost me at mayo
mayo, yuk! Just give me some oil and vinegar, salt pepper and oregano and I'm good. Oh yeah has to have meat, tomato, onion, etc.... Usually the only time I eat a sandwich is after a good banging, er I mean love making session
nj
Born in, raised in but never believed in a sky daddy that loved me or anyone else for that matter. He/She/It just never seemed real to me.
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i"m not just directing this just to the women i think this can happen to a man or a .
women.
theres a time in your life, i'll go back to when my family was young that a .
Yup I can definately relate. Although my "finding myself stage" started when my youngest got his drivers license. Now don't get me wrong it was great not having to drive him around all the time, but that's when it hit me that they don't need me as much as they used to. I found myself being home alone more (I'm a homebody and hubby is always running around here and there). That's when I decided I needed to find myself again. What do I like, what are my interests. For years it's been all about the kids and when they grow up and you are not needed anymore it's a strange feeling.
I don't think men go through it like we do though. Although my hubby has been a great dad, for whatever reason I was the one always running around dropping off and picking up, making meals, screaming and yelling and kicking butts Anyway, my baby will be going to college in August and I'll have only one at home, middle child I wonder if he'll ever leave..................
I'll let you know if I ever find myself, I'm still searching.......
nj
Nah, same 'ol Shite different day!
nj
you don't need to exaggerate the foibles of jws to get the point across that they are not "the truth".
can you state some facts that show that jehovah's witnesses are not "normal' and that their religion is weird and simply abnormal?.
The catholic cross represents a penis.
What? I've seen many penis's but not one has ever resembled a cross! The things these people come up with.
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i love my dad & mom so much.
they are just so involved with the religion and will not see any other point of few.
my son is with my parents spending his first week of summer vacation with them.
I know a lot of you wonder why I let me son visit them. It's because he adores them both. If I will not allow my child to see them and spend time with them, then I am no better than them. I allow my son to make some of these decisions for himself. I don't want him to resent me from keeping him from his grandparents. My son's father is a JW so he is around the religion a lot. My son has said that he does not want to be a JW. He enjoys holidays & birthdays too much!!! My parents don't talk bad about me to him, all they say is they wished I went to Jah's house (kingdom hall) again
Babygirl:
Please if you don't listen to anyone else, please listen to me.
You can go back and read my past threads, I'm not gonna go there again. But I left the JW's and home at age 18 with a 2 day old infant. For a couple of months I wouldn't even let my parents see my son, then I felt guilty. I felt like you, if I don't let them see him I'm no better than they are. I'm gonna be a bigger person. Anyway they are crazy but they would never harm him.
Well I started visiting them more often. Then leave him for an hour or so, then half days, until he was spending weekends with them. He was so happy when it was time to go see grandma and grandpa. As he got older "he" (I know he was a kid I should have known better) wanted to go with them to the meetings, this made me feel uncomfortable but I figured I'd watch them closely and if anything looked suspicious (?sp) I'd put stop to it.
My parents ended up convincing my son that my husband and I were evil, drug addicted, child abusers. We were gonna cause him to die a horrible death at the Big A because we left Jehoober. Eventually I ended up allowing him to go and live with them. My son for the past 12 years has been a screwed up little boy, young man and even into adulthood. He is just now getting to a point where he is no longer trying to kill himself. He attempted suicide 3 times almost succeeded the last time. His self esteem is now getting better, but up until recently I would say it was at 0, ZERO. He has been confused, lied to and emotionally abused. All because I didn't stand up to my parents and take him out of their lives. I lost my son to my parents for some of the best years of his life. I missed his middle school years, prom (he didn't go)high school years, graduation, ect..., and now that he's older he's finally doing ok. He's working, he takes his meds and he seems to be doing well. He lives in the same area as my parents and still see's them alot. But now he's on his own, not going to the meetings and after all his drama is finally seeing the whole picture. What he couldn't see when he was 12, 13, 14, 15.......... he see's now. He's missed a lot also.
Don't let your child go through this. It is heartwrenching to watch your child suffer mentally and emotionally, being torn between his parents and grandparents. Of course he went to the grandparents, it was easy they gave him everything, told him anything he wanted to hear, no discipline at all and all he had to do was go to the meetings. He didn't even have to respect them it was ok as long as he wasn't with me.
I often feel that they, my mother mostly did this to get back at me. Who knows, I don't care anymore. It's not worth my time to think about it.
They will turn your child against you to "save his life". Go get your baby girl.
nj
hi people,,,what i mean about personal decision is that, if someone wants to believe what they really want, what will the problem be, so why do some people have to question their beliefs and their type of life.
wouldn't it be better if we try to respect everyones life, no meter how they do it.
hope that you all get my point...
free will, u became JWs cos u wanted to,
WRONG! My parents became JW's because they wanted to. For me it was forced on me I didn't choose anything such thing.
BTW, welcome to JWD
nj
just an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.
you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.
it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.
I haven't read the entire thread but I have mixed feeling on National Healthcare. I think it would be great for those who work but can't afford the pay deductions for company sponsored healthcare, for people who don't have a job and of course children that are uninsured.
With that said - I really like my benefits, the premiums are very affordable, the copays are minimal and I have excellent coverage. My kids are covered until they turn 24 regardless if they are in school or not. I would not want to be forced into healthcare program that is less than what I have now, I don't want to wait for hours upon hours to see a doctor or be seen in an ER. If I need "elective surgery" I want to be able to have it. I'm not talking about cosmetic surgery there are some elective surgeries that are done to relieve pain and discomfort, I've had several and I'm glad I had the option to have it.
I understand that my situation may not be the "norm", believe me I've seen patients denied medication and procedures because their insurance company denies it. I hate most insurance companies. But I think it should be a choice an option like you can either have your company sponsored insurance or what the government offers.
I guess as long as I have a choice I don't have a problem with it. I really need to do more reading on this topic.
*going to search for more info*
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