Not only have I seen businesses built up by the use of witness contacts, but literal homes built with the labor of brothers and then later sold at a large profit. It is usually wealthy brothers who do this over and over again. Brilliant plan following suit of the mother organization. I do wonder why nothing was done by the elders after this letter was sent. Usually any questioning or bad attitude sends the body of elders on the rampage.
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Punished by our friends for the letter we sent.
by LennyinBluemont insome of you may have read our exit letter from august of last year which we sent to about 50 of our close jw "friends", many of whom we had been very close to for decades.
we just told them what we had learned regarding the un scandal and provided all the documentation.
we never disassociated ourselves, nor have we been disfellowshipped.
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Another J W e mail
by NikL ini noticed another thread on this site relaying a stupid e mail making the rounds of dubdom.. well i just got this one and i thought i would share.... powerful illustration.
after the prayer, the local elder slowly stood up, walked up to the.
platform and, before he gave his public talk, he briefly introduced a guest.
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I am continuously amazed at the clearity of reasoning that comes out when we hold these things up to the light. I believe it's called deductive reasoning...interesting to see what people come up with.
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Another J W e mail
by NikL ini noticed another thread on this site relaying a stupid e mail making the rounds of dubdom.. well i just got this one and i thought i would share.... powerful illustration.
after the prayer, the local elder slowly stood up, walked up to the.
platform and, before he gave his public talk, he briefly introduced a guest.
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For one thing, those boys would never have approached this man, for another, the guy would never have told this story without taking credit for the results in front of the whole congregation. A similar story involved a train full of people about to jump track on a bridge where the father had to make a split decision in sacrificing his son.
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Do you remember this saying...?
by Flowerpetal inregarding worldly associations:.
"the worst jw in the org.
is better than the best person in the world..".
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There has to be a strict division between US and THEM to separate the good and the bad in the org. There should be no involvement at all with the worldly because if you love them, or even like them, there may be some resentment towards Jehovah's plans in their destruction. My favorite visual was at an assembly where the speaker said all worldly people should be considered dead right now...fall in love with one, kiss him, and it will be just like kissing a corpse...sometimes the things they say are so crazy it works against them eventually.
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THE UNIVERSE - What do you now believe about it?
by Black Man ini was watching this documentary on the various galaxies and it stated that the universe is still expanding, planets are being created as we speak.
it also detailed some of the planets within our solar system and some beyond it and speculated how some were favorable for habitation and that some show evidence of having a water supply.
what do you believe about the universe?
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It was the vastness of the Universe that made me wonder if it was possible that Jesus Christ came here to give his life to save this planet "once for all time". Was it possible that we were the only life in all the Universe? What if somebody else on another planet sinned? Are they out of luck because Jesus already saved us? These thoughts started to make the whole Bible look ridiculous.
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Airline worker returns $266,000 bag of lost jewelry - and he wasn't even JW
by Gopher inhttp://www.startribune.com/484/story/1243392.html.
kansas city, mo.
a national jewelry store chain is looking for a "nice way'' to thank a midwest airlines employee who found a cargo bag with $266,000 worth of jewelry inside and took it to police.
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...and Jehovah's Witnesses were the only prisoners Hitler could trust to shave the SS guards...anybody ever hear that one?
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When Did You Start Feeling Uncomfortable In The Truth?
by The wanderer in<!-- .style1 { font-family: arial; font-size: 18px; } .style2 { font-family: arial; font-size: 16px; color: #0033cc; } .style3 { font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; } .style4 {color: #0033cc} --> when did you start feeling uncomfortable in the truth?it started out for me by asking questions out of curiosity, which eventually led me.
out of the organization.
my history as a jehovahs witness could easily be summed .
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The thought that it is fine to be married and miserabe, God will love you then, but God hates people who love each other but aren't married. I was in what I now know to be a hellish marriage, but because it looked good on paper, God thought that was just fine. He takes his cue from the courthouse before he decides to annihilate you for all eternity. What a dopey story it all is!
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If The Elders Decide To Get You-----They Will!!!
by minimus inplease never think that you can reason with an "older man", a "spiritual shepherd", an "elder".
elders already know what their agenda is.
if they want to talk with you, they control the format.
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I desperately wanted to fade. I got many invitations to elder meetings in the back room. If you don't go, they are immediately suspicious and try harder. I made the mistake of stopping on the side of the road after being PULLED OVER by one of the elders, only to be handed a notice for the judicial hearing. They had tried 3 certified letters to me previously and I refused them...this guy had to have waited 3 or more hours on the side of the road to catch me. Mistake number two was actually going to that meeting -- the charge being going against a principle of one flesh even tho they never asked me if I had had sex with this male friend. I had been divorced for 3 years by then but...the idea that the elders spend 100s of hours helping people before they are dfed is just crazy. The elder body was afraid of how things would look. Another friend of mine moved from the Detroit area to the Upper Peninsula to escape and within weeks she was found. I wish now I would have told them if they dfed me I would take legal action against them.
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Waistband of pants down to mid thighs
by Fatfreek ini had a sandwich at subway today and my seat was near the door.
one of the patrons left with his buddy and i could hardly believe my eyes.
i'm no prude but it turned me off to see the belt line of his jean shorts down to the middle of his thighs.
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In their attempt at being different these boys have managed to be cookie-cutter images of each other. When I see it it screams: STILL TRYING TO FIND MYSELF! The world would be a really interesting place if we were all given sewing machines and made to sew up our own creations...if I were queen of the world...
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The Story of Minimus
by minimus inwhen i was a teen, i aspired to be an elder.
from my pre-teens until i was 18, i was in every circuit assembly and district convention----having either ministry school talks or parts or experiences.
at 20, i conducted a bookstudy in the afternoon, also regular pioneered, was the theocratic ministry school overseer in the 2nd school and regularly taught the main school.
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The last thing a person would imagine when they saw Minimus years ago would be that he would ever leave. I am sure that people saw my husband and I the same way. The horrible truth is that a Bible trained conscience is nothing to be proud of because when we go against human nature there is something in each of us that knows it. mcsemike: I do think that the day will come when elders who are put in these unnecessary positions will realize just what happened back there in that room when they told somebody God doesn't want anything to do with them anymore. I was the only person who cried at the cousin's funeral. People just looked at me like : "what's the matter with HER?" If Minimus can recognize what's going on, then I would hope that others in that position would see it also. Natural human affection and love really have been replaced by rules in this organization.