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  did anyone on here ever have a paedophile in thier congregation?

  by looloo in

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  if so, did it bother you that he had been reprooved and forgiven rather than reported to the police?

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  We did, for sure. He actually got his own stepdaughter pregnant and was DF's back in the day when that meant a LONG time gone. But in time, he was reinstated, and eventually even became an elder when the elder arrangement was introduced. He never stopped with his fascination with young girls, however. My mother, bless her heart, was obedient to the Organization in every respect...except that one. For some reason, innocent as she was, reluctant as she was to talk about sexual things with us, etc., she saw him for the monster he was and never allowed my sister and I to be in his company alone. Other young girls were not so lucky. Eventually, he and his wife had a child together, and he preyed on his own fleshly child as well. She ultimately married a man 25 years older than she - a pseudo replacement for the old man who'd been abusing her since she was about 3, no doubt. Still, they tolerated his terrible behavior, covered it up--he and his wife would move from congo to congo where he'd practice his sick behaviors and then get outta Dodge before it got to the lynching mob stage.

  I lost track when I got out of the Borg, but last I heard, he was still at it.

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  Hillary "I have been fighting for change for 36 years!!".then u r a frikkin

  by oompa in

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  failure lady.

  i could not believe she screamed that line out the other night, but if i was in a debate with her i would throw it in her chipmunk face.

  i'lllet you fight for change for for me for five years...fine.

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  Hillary gets hit by a truck and ends up in front of the Throne. The Lord says, "Well, Hillary, whaddya think? You've lived under the public eye - done good things, done bad things - had a straying husband - messed up health care...I'd like to know if you've learned anything. What DO you think?"

  Hillary says, "I think you're in my chair."
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  Does Debating Have to Be Abusive - To Be Effective ?

  by flipper in

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  my wife and i were having an interesting discussion about some of the debates that take place on the board here .

  now, granted most people , i feel upwards of 90 % on the board maybe higher try to be respectful in their debates or discussions on topics.

  i think we all had enough bashing in the witness organization.

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  This is just a thought...I've followed discussions on many different boards, and find that rancorous exchanges occur with regularity on nearly all of them, not just those devoted to religious or political differences. I've even seen ladies on a bead-enthusiasts' board take nasty shots at each other!

  I wonder if it's because one isn't facing the person upon whom they unleash those harsh words and, thus, feel they can fire away with impunity. It would be very hard to call others unkind names and make other ad hominem remarks if you were sitting across the table from the person. I think it's one thing to feel passionately about one's position and to drive the points home as effectively and convincingly as possible, but quite another to make personal attacks out of them. I think it's one of the reasons it took me so long to post here--I watched some of the heinous wars of words that degenerated into very personal insults. There's plenty of conflict in our world without adding to it here.

  Just my two cents.

  Sisowuzzy
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  Hillary "I have been fighting for change for 36 years!!".then u r a frikkin

  by oompa in

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  failure lady.

  i could not believe she screamed that line out the other night, but if i was in a debate with her i would throw it in her chipmunk face.

  i'lllet you fight for change for for me for five years...fine.

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  Hillary is talking to a group of grade schoolers, and invites questions. "Yes, son?" she says, calling on a little blond boy. "What's your name?"

  "Kevin," he replies. "I want to know what happened to those people who mysteriously disappeared during the White Water scandal, and why did we pay you for 8 years during your husband's presidency to come up with a health care plan and you came up with bupkis?"

  Before Hillary could answer, the bell rang for recess. When the kids reassembled, she called for more questions. Another kid says, "My name is Ralphie and I have 4 questions. a) what happened to those people who disappeared during White Water b) how come we paid you but you never gave us a health care plan c) how come the recess bell rang 20 minutes early and d) where's Kevin?"

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  Post something "Intelligent"

  by JH in

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  i'll start .

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  e = mc2.

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  Jaguarbass said: The area of a circle is Pi × r2 or Pi × r × r, Or...to put it another way, pi r squared (cornbread r round) Sisowuzzy
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  Smell 'em a Mile Away!!!

  by prophecor in

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  you get to talking to folks, for the first time.

  you here thier speech, watch how they carry themselves and before you know it, you think you've got an idea of the type person you're engaging with.........then bam!!!!

  it hits you.

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  Flipper said: After being done working early in the mornings about 10:30 A.M. or so they come into a Starbucks where I take a break . You can tell- the way they are dressed , women long skirts covering their ankles virtually, men's hair cut all the same- clonish, this " deer in the headlights " expression trying to figure out in confusion who is going to pay for the coffee out of the group ! LOL!

  Yeah, an even more telling sign is someone pulling out a calculator to determine if they've been stiffed 2 or 3 cents, leaving a tract as a tip, and timing everyone's trip to the bathroom, lest taking a leak rob the pioneers of service time.

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  THE TORTURE STAKE

  by journey-on in

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  why in the world did they choose to call it that!

  i remember the horrific way it always sounded to me...the torture stake.

  couldn't they have chosen something else?

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  Besides which, it's totally phallic - how else would those dried up ole prunes get their jollies, huh?

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  WELCOME NEWBIES - all of you! Check in here, I'm losing track of you.

  by AWAKE&WATCHING in

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  i just saw the eighth post by botheyesopen.

  i noticed aliciaj, dogaradodya, chicken little, cognac, hypnotic, mochalatte.. some have been welcomed and some have not.. .

  we have so many i can't keep up so.... .

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  Newbie here. Thanks for the warm welcome. I initiated a post the other day wondering if the dubs will even exist in 10 years. I have lurked here for several years, but never posted until a couple of days ago. Over the past few years, the hold the WT had over me has disappeared...well, mostly. Because of family still "in" I am circumspect about some of my activities (like Christmas), but largely I'm just living my life. Recently widowed, that life has taken a new path, of course. All the plans we had as a happy married couple no longer interest me, and I'm working on finding that new direction. Meanwhile, being out of the borg is the best! Had been one of those sisters who really did deep research, did it because I genuinely wanted to be pleasing to God, wanted to know the deeper truths. Looking back on all those many years now, I shake my head in bewilderment. What was I thinking??? I find I no longer need the reassurance that I found here initially, but you'll never know how much it meant to me at first. You all helped me to see that it was okay to walk away, that there was life after the intellectual "death" of their mind control.

  What I DO still crave is some hint that the organization is crumbling, so periodically, I peek back in here and read posts from more recent escapees (I've been inactive, not DF'd, for about 11 years). What are the current witchhunts? What new ridiculous stance has the GB taken of late? What latest scandals? These are the things I look for when I peruse this Board. Call it vindictive (it is) and small minded (yep, guilty), but I take real pleasure in each one of you who has escaped their clutches. I had so many Bible studies at one time, a number of whom were baptized. I'd like to pull them all back out!

  Hey, I do have one question: are they still using the same songbook as they had in, say, 1999?

  Sisowuzzy
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  Did the word "persecution" scare you as a kid?

  by journey-on in

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  i remember imagining being tied up and my fingernails pulled out one by one and somebody screaming at me to denounce jehovah?

  anybody else go through this?

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  I, too, grew up in the Malawi era and expected that kind of thing. I was very protective of my mother and younger sister, so I frequently dreamed of trying to get them outta Dodge before "they" (whoever they were) found us. "Flee to the mountains" was something I daydreamed about, mentally planning routes, supplies, etc. What I thought we'd do once we got there was pretty vague (I was 17 or so), as we had no camping gear or survival equipment. But, by golly, we have mountains! I sort of envisioned other witnesses showing and forming those stand-up tables and gruel lines like they used to have at assemblies, back in the day.

  Like others, I was fairly sure I could hold up, but couldn't bear the thought that they might harm my mom and sis in front of me. I used to joke that I'd rat out all the elders if that happened, but looking back now, I probably would have.

  The scare tactics used back then were awful, to be sure, but is it really any worse than teaching little kids that God hands you over to Satan to burn forever with little demons and imps gleefully sticking you with their forks? Back in the day, before studying with the dubs, I attended a Pentacostal church for several years, and that's exactly what they taught in Sunday school, replete with illustrations via their "felt story board" (what people in the early 60's used instead of Powerpoint, I guess!).

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  In another 10 Years, will there be anybody left in the WT?

  by sisowuzzy in

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  new poster here.

  in the borg for 30+ years.

  out and free about 10, inactive, not df'd.

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  Maddie writes:

  Not if I have my way

  Maddie

  LOL - I know what you mean! Because I have family still in the Borg, and as I mentioned a handful of dub friends who amazingly still associate with me, I have to try to stay under the apostate-hunters' radar screen, but I never miss a trick to plant a little seed here and there among them. Among the most self-revealing things that have happened to me since my Great Escape are my attempts to explain to my new friends what the dubs believe. They are flabbergasted as I search for the vocabulary to explain the repressive, intrusive, inbred control exercised over the lives of the "flock" by the elder body and nosy bros/sis. When I try to provide the backdrop for some of the doctrinal beliefs, they stare at me like I'm speaking a foreign language. I suppose, to some degree, I am. I'm far more surprised than they are. What was I THINKING??? WTF?

  They know that I own three businesses, and consider me to be a logical and sensible person. That I would have submitted to the iron-clad rule of a group of close-minded, occasionally misogynistic men--people with no training, many with no education, all with their own agendas--is beyond their ability to grasp. Not by nature a vindictive person, I still find myself giving a silent "YES!" when I read of successful lawsuits against the WTS, or of someone leaving the organization. I keep hoping that as the information continues to be readily available, the money is drying up, and the social attitude about all-controlling religion begins to turn, the dubs will at least lose the stranglehold they have. They might survive, but I can't imagine they'll have the showing they have in the past.

  Even so, I'm still paranoid. For example, I boldly put up a Christmas tree in 2006. Oh yeah, the girl's struttin' her stuff, yo! Every drop of creative juice was flowing as I created a masterpiece from the long-suppressed urges to decorate to the nines with every pagan symbol I could get my hands on! That said, I then closed all my drapes so no dub casually driving by would spot my tree and rat me out! When my next-door neighbors realized that I was harboring a "closet tree," they were completely baffled. They're still giving me gas about it. I'm sure it's one of the many reason so many ex-dubs find comfort here. Who else on earth could understand the warped, convoluted thinking that we once embraced?

  Anyhow, this long-time lurker feels very liberated just to express my thoughts in this community, after several years of watching from the sidelines.

  Sisowuzzy