Either the 144,000 is a literal number or not. The J-Dubs can't have it both ways. Mathematically that number was reached long ago using the JW calculus.
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Becoming officially recognized as Annointed
by B_Deserter ini've heard there is a very secretive process the wts uses to determine whether or not they'll consider someone "of the annointed.
" from what i've heard it's a very rigorous set of questions.
can anyone here confirm this?
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THE WTS: CRASH OR SLOWLY FADE AWAY?
by Seeker4 ini was just reading the thread about barbara anderson and perhaps some big news she will publish about the wts.
i agree with those who say that anything barbara has scandalous about the early history of the witnesses, ie: russel or rutherford times, will have zero impact.
that whole era is pretty much dismissed by all witnesses i know.
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For years in my hometown, growth has been stagnant. No young, no middle class, no educated people. The elders are getting old. My brother and I were the heirs apparent there and we are since long gone.
The J-Dubs are odd ball uneducated misfits.
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public talk will be cut to 30 minutes in the near future (January)?
by Nulite injust got off the phone with an old bethel connection.
the public talk will soon be cut to 30 minutes.
the outlines will stay the same.
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Just got off the phone with an old Bethel connection. The public talk will soon be cut to 30 minutes. The outlines will stay the same. Each speaker will eliminate what ever they want.
The J-Dubs are dying of boredom and bad speaker fatigue......
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Talked to an OLD Friend last night
by RichieRich inso, when i was little, there was this guy i used to hang around with.
he was like an older brother to me.
in fact, 8 years my senior, he might as well have been.. his mom and my mom were best friends.
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Good memories happen and that's a good thing. Some days out in service near the river and in the country was so pleasant. We had some really cool guys back then. Many of them understood the deal and left soon after turning 18.
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When I was in Brooklyn Bethel in the 90's a buddy of mine worked in the service department. He lasted a couple of years before he went crazy. I heard dealing with so many problems pushed him over the edge. Now he'll see me and walk right by with a giant loopy grin on his face, won't even speak. We were in the same congregation for 5 years.
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New Tract Campaign for DC
by Dagney incan anybody scan a copy of the cover?.
i was told there is a creepy picture of jesus on the cover.
was wondering.. tia if you can.. d.
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I agree with Dagney. On the cover Jesus looks like Sufer Dan from Orange County. C' mon. I've traveled to Jerusalem and the only white people are the ones that moved in.
If I see another white Jesus, Moses, Noah, Daniel, Peter, Abraham, Isaac or any other bible character, I might lose it. I love my white brothers but do realize how dark the biblical Jews were.
God forbid Watchtower showing Jesus looking Mexican, Asian, or African American
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Leading a Double Life: Only for JDubs?
by YoursChelbie inwhen i was a jdub, there were many talks given to guard against those in the "congregation" who may be leading a double life.
people who are not jdubs can also lead double lives as anyone reading the evening news can attest to: shocking deception even criminal acts done by someone who appeared to be a trusted member of the community.
how do you deal with these potential deceivers in your own life?
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The J-Dubs are so uptight about everything. The double life that they refer to is a life everyone else would call normal. Not the double life--ax murderer--school teacher by day villian you see on the nightly news.
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Is Writing Your New Outlet Since Leaving The Organization?
by The wanderer in<!-- .style1 { font-size: 18px; font-family: arial; color: #0033cc; } .style2 { font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; } --> is writing your new outlet since leaving the organization?interestingly, many former jehovahs witnesses have turned to writing as an .
alternative form of communication since leaving the door-to-door ministry.
admittedly, it is impressive that individuals want to educate themselves in this.
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Once you leave the J-Dubs you have so much energy to assign to many new things like writing. Internet forums provide a nice audience for you to vent with and speak out with.
Writing poems or a book or whatever is a good thing.
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For Those Raised in "Da Troof" Would Your Life Had Been Better If...
by XJW4EVR inyou had been raised by the same family, but in a different religion, or non-religious home?
i am not addressing birthdays or holidays.
i am thinking about everyday life.. the reason i ask, is that so much of our parents problems may have been caused, or enhanced by "da troof.
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I think life would have been more peaceful, balanced, and liberating. Being raised in "Da Troof" was a living hell.
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True Religion
by Nulite inin the march 2007 watchtower on religion, the writer mumbles on and on about the virtues of true religion.
the same was true in one of the tracts used in one of the more recent campaigns.
they did not however proclaim themselves the only true religion.. are the j-dubs no longer claiming to be the only true religion in public print?
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In the March 2007 Watchtower on religion, the writer mumbles on and on about the virtues of true religion. The same was true in one of the tracts used in one of the more recent campaigns. They did not however proclaim themselves the only true religion.
Are the J-Dubs no longer claiming to be the only true religion in public print? What is the deal?
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