Posts by Faraon

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Cannabis & priestly anointing oil ?

by El blanko in

hi there fellow students .... a quick question for you all.

do you know whether in the temple arrangement, the anointing oil used contained flower heads from the cannabis plant?

there appears to be evidence that suggests that the word kineboisin refers to the plant.

Faraon

Sargon,

Marihuana is no more dangerous than alcohol.
Actually Faraon, It's far less harmful that alcohol. i've never seen anybody lose their mind smoking weed the way they do drinking whiskey.

IMO being no more dangerous than alcohol means that at the highest danger extreme it will be equal to alcohol.

The reason that I said that marihuana did not agree with me was that the few times that I smoked it, I felt time disoriented, and would forget whether I had already said something or not. It did give me a feeling of general well being though. The last time I smoked it. I felt that my body did not respond. I was aware of what was happening around me, but I just could not get up from my chair. The previous time to that I started to get paranoid thoughts. I decided it was not for me, and stopped it. That was over 25 years ago.

On the other hand, I could drink like a Cossack. Sometimes drinking two quarts of tequila per day for two or three days, with the only side effect of verbal diarrhea (talking too much) taking place. I Never had fights or arguments, even with combative drunks. I had drinking very much under control and would always stop at my predetermined limit whether it was two drinks, twelve, or stopping at a certain time.

To each his own, I guess.

Faraon

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Simon, Cephas, Peter, Judas, Thomas, Didymus

by Leolaia in

this post is in response to peacefulpete's interesting post from my king david thread, which i quote below: .

leolaia...if you look again at 1cor you'll see peter is not there only an ebionite named cephas is.

the only reference to "peter" in any of "pauline" works is gal 2:7 and it is an interpolation made for the very reasons being discussed.

Faraon

Leolaia

Double Edge.....Great!! I'm glad someone else than just Pete and I are reading this stuff!

What am I, chopped meat, the invisible man?

All kidding aside, I read with great interest both your posts, and those of PP. I don't answer or comment frequently because I don't consider myself in your league. I don't have the depth or breadth of knowledge that you have shown, but it is not too late to learn. Both of you have been an inspiration and a source of sorely needed knowledge.

Faraon

17

Religious Freedom

by Yerusalyim in

have i missed it or have we not discussed the move by france to forbid the wearing of religious symbols and garb in public schools?

no hijab (scarves worn by muslim women) or kippot (the beanies worn my orthodox jewish males).

how do you feel about this?

Faraon

Yeru,

Interesting thoughts, though not entirely true. Sure, in any OFFICIALLY Muslim coutnry you can not teach your religion to muslims, however, Israel, while giving missionaries a hard time, don't have a law against converting to another religion.

It seems to me that we agree. I said:

People from theocratic countries that forbid other religions...

That means that you will not be allowed to preach and/or practice your religion in my country if I am not allowed to preach my religion in your country. You, however, will be allowed to preach and/or practice your religion in my country if I am allowed to do so in yours.

In other words:

We will fight intolerance with intolerance.

You will get the same religious rights in this country that you give us in yours. No more. No less

125

Making 607 crumble

by ellderwho in

during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

Faraon

Earnest,

Faraon, I concluded long ago that "scholar" is probably dyslexic and hesitate to criticise his grammar and spelling for that reason. A person can be a scholar without being able to spell. The fact that he has shown himself to be a verbal inexactiduner is less excusable.

I don't think scholar is dyslexic. They usually confuse the orientation of letters, both in the horizontal and the vertical planes (p,b,d, and q look the same to them) or reverse the order of letters in a word (e.g.: They write dog instead of god.) Scholar does not show these symptoms. His writing is also puerile. He should have stopped the constant use of "and" by fifth grade and begun to use commas instead. It takes at least 17 years of schooling to obtain a master's degree in the US. He has had plenty of time to correct this problem, especially if he is a native speaker. My problem with him is that he constantly puts down people without higher education knowing fully well that the organization he defends so much has been the cause of JWs not pursuing those degrees. I was raised a Catholic, and went to a Salesian seminary for three years. Besides regular school work, they study religion and languages for four years (first year and second years: English and Latin, third and fourth years: English, Latin, Greek, and Italian). This was in addition to Spanish, since I was in Mexico at the time. They go on to the novitiate for three years. Next, they study philosophy and education for five years in which they earn a double BA. This is followed by three years of teaching practice (Salesians are dedicated to teaching children). Finally they study Theology for four years and get ordained as priests. My brother is a priest. My nephew (who is only three years younger than I) had all the requirements for ordination, but decided at the last minute not to get ordained. He has degrees in education, philosopy, theology, physics, and psychology. Never in my life did any Salesian priest, or my already mentioned relatives, said that I or anyone else couldn't debate others because if they didn't have the academic credentials. The arrogance of writing the academic credentials after a signature when a letter or posted materials are not of professional quality makes those credentials look foolish. Faraon.

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"I'm not interested" / "Have a good day" ??

by Gopher in

what did you or other jw's say when told by a householder "i'm not interested"?.

a lot of jw's in our area have the habit of saying "well, have a good day", as if to fill the awkward silence.. but if you studied your "conversation stoppers" section from the reasoning book, you find other possibilities:.

"would you be interested if you could find out how you could see your dead loved ones again someday?".

Faraon

LOL @ Shamus & Gopher

Got my forty,

One time after doing my presentation through the door the hispanioc woman on the other side said "not interesting" and I said "I know your not interesting, how about buying these magazines from me though."

I think this was a wasted answer as she probably heard you said: "I know your not interested, how about buying..." and thought "what a persistant beggar!" in her mind.

Maybe she was trying to tell you the magazines were not interesting, or that you were not interesting.

Q. How many Witnesses are needed to change a light bulb?

A. Only one, but you need to keep a large supply of bulbs due to frequent burnouts caused by constant on-off changes in the New Ligh (tm)

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Why do cults focus in on 'doomsday'?

by A Paduan in

that's my question - doomsday cults - how come ?

Faraon

Doomsday instills a sense of urgency to join a cult.

I think this is the main idea. Think about what would have happened if Russell had predicted "The End of This System of Things" to happen in in the year 2914.

This can be compared to: This sale will end in two days. Buy now.

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Religious Freedom

by Yerusalyim in

have i missed it or have we not discussed the move by france to forbid the wearing of religious symbols and garb in public schools?

no hijab (scarves worn by muslim women) or kippot (the beanies worn my orthodox jewish males).

how do you feel about this?

Faraon

I have mixed thoughts on the subject:

I agree that the state should neither be for, or against a particular religion. France seems to be doing this since the law covers all religions, and not only one.

On the other hand, I think that this law discriminates against the children. They should enjoy the same religious rights as adults. If adults are allowed to wear these symbols in public, the children should be able to do so in school unless this is creating probrems, like gang symbols do here in the US.

I believe in retaliatory justice. Many years ago supermarkets could not sell meat unless there was a butcher present. Many businesses started posting signs that they would not serve to butchers for the same reason. eg.: We will not sell a suit to butchers unless there is a tailor on the premises. Brazil is fingerprinting only all US citizens. While this may seem discriminating, it is a signal that those laws should not be tolerated in their own country.

People from theocratic countries that forbid other religions should not be allowed to practice or teach the official religion of that country.

I think that the solution to it would be to include mandatory comparative courses on the beliefs and practices of different religions, and the effect they had on people.

But these are only my thoughts.

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Cannabis & priestly anointing oil ?

by El blanko in

hi there fellow students .... a quick question for you all.

do you know whether in the temple arrangement, the anointing oil used contained flower heads from the cannabis plant?

there appears to be evidence that suggests that the word kineboisin refers to the plant.

Faraon

I looked up about 10 sites about kineboisin. All of them were pro-cannabis. None of these could provide a traceable reference to the study,

http://www.schechter.edu/askrabbi/fragrantcane.htm

This link talks about kineboisin, but the rabbi claims that it is not about cannabis. Maybe a lot of misinformation was spread without basis.

Personally, although my body does not tolerate cannabis, I do approve of its use. I think that criminalizing it is criminal in itself. It is abuse of power. Marihuana is no more dangerous than alcohol.

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Making 607 crumble

by ellderwho in

during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

Faraon

Your claim aboy a member of the Governing Body expressing doubt about chronology is hearsay. do not believe what you say without evidence. Our chronology is biblically based, accurate and has withstood the Jonsson rubbish and the stuff based on higher criticism. Our organization is serene, blessed by God and is used by Him to accomplich His purposes. You have a distorted view of the Lord's people and have allowed yourself to be stumbeled marking you as an immature person. If you have found a better religion, Church, Christianity or organization then please inform us all. I do not think so for all you can do is moan and groan. How pathetic you are.

Your claim aboy a member of the Governing Body expressing doubt about chronology is hearsay. do not believe what you say without evidence. Our chronology is biblically based, accurate and has withstood the Jonsson rubbish and the stuff based on higher criticism. Our organization is serene, blessed by God and is used by Him to accomplich His purposes. You have a distorted view of the Lord's people and have allowed yourself to be stumbeled marking you as an immature person. If you have found a better religion, Church, Christianity or organization then please inform us all. I do not think so for all you can do is moan and groan. How pathetic you are!

You have a distorted view of the Lord's people and have allowed yourself to be stumbeled marking you as an immature person.

Who marks Hilary-step? It needs clarifying. If you mean ?marking yourself,? instead of ?marking you?, then you must brush-up on the reflective mode.

I think that you must take a crash course in punctuation. You have many run-on sentences in your posts.

If you have found a better religion, Church, Christianity, or organization then please inform us all

I am curious as to why "church" was capitalized, but not "religion" or "organization".

This sentence has no logical sense. How would you write the quoted four terms in a Venn diagram?

You only give four choices.

I am an Agnostic. I consider it the best belief system. Yet, it was not among the choices given by you. We do the right thing only because it is right. Not because we expect a reward or fear a punishment. We don't follow a book or an organization that discriminates the handicapped, claims that women are worth only 60% of man, condones slavery, punishes transgressors by being burned to death, changes its opinion quicker than its members change clothes, does not trust its members to disagree on their own doctrine, etc.

If my limits are those stated by you, then my answer would be: Any organization over 20 million strong who is secure enough not to use mind control or a dangerous destructive cult like the Watchtower.

If I had to choose a religion, I would choose Catholics. At least they don't try to control a person's thoughts.

Faraon

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Making 607 crumble

by ellderwho in

during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

Faraon

Scholar,

I have not gone away and I am always ready to pounce and defend the Society's brilliant chronology. Hilary-Step is a intellectual light weight and he does not bother be a bit' When you have earned the degrees and have Jehovah's spirit and belong to the True Religion then there is nothing to be afraid of.

I have not gone away and [there is an overuse of the word ?and?. I suggest purchasing an elementary school book on grammar.] I am always ready to pounce and defend the Society's brilliant chronology. Hilary-Step is a [?a? should be ?an? because the next word begins with a vowel.] intellectual light weight and he does not bother be a bit' [no period after this sentence.] When you have earned the degrees and [there should be a comma instead of the word ?and?.] have Jehovah's spirit and belong to the True Religion [There is no religion registered under that name. ?True Religion? is not a proper noun. It should not be capitalized.] then [A comma here would be nice.] there is nothing to be afraid of.

Never mind your ?advanced degrees.? What I really want to see is your fifth-grade report card. I doubt very much that you had a passing grade in spelling and in writing. People like you are a textbook example to back up the WT?s claim that higher education is useless. Is this your purpose?