Posts by StephaneLaliberte

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Any explanation from the WT as to why Adam and Eve did not have sex before they sinned? (and other Genesis stumpers)

by BU2B in

(disclaimer- i know this is all fairy tales but i like to pick genesis apart since many millions still take it literally and is the foundtion of jw doctrine.

without genesis being real, the whole thing collpses).

i was just reading through genesis yesterday, and it really hit me.

StephaneLaliberte

Also, how could the entrance to the garden of eden be garded by swords? Why would it have been invented or created back then?

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New light -----> beliefs clarified

by fastJehu in

the wt library cd contains a list of "beliefs clarified" from the year 1872 until today.. you can reach this list as follows:.

- search for beliefs clarified.

- double click on publications index.

me and the spouse looked over the wt and decided it wouldn't be in our best spiritual interest to stay for the wt (we usually don't anymore).. so, took the kids to the public talk (was actually great, nice brother), took them outside for a snack and snuggled/played...and then left (an hour early).. .

felt great!

gotta do what you know is best for you spiritually!

StephaneLaliberte

I don't know how you feel about this, but personally, I can't bring my kids at the hall at all anymore. There is way too many things I don't want them to hear.

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Someone I know wants to go back to the meetings

by StephaneLaliberte in

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friends

i am presently fadding out and a person that i know sent me an email telling me he was going back to his meeting.

how can i let him know that i think he probably will be better outside if he keeps trying without running the risk that he goes back and forward the email to a local elder?.

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StephaneLaliberte

I am presently fadding out and a person that I know sent me an email telling me he was going back to his meeting. How can I let him know that I think he probably will be better outside if he keeps trying without running the risk that he goes back and forward the email to a local elder?

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Interesting quote!

by StephaneLaliberte in

*** w00 5/1 p. 17 par.

17 hear what the spirit has to say ***.

as we establish a pattern of listeningto the word behind usas it is provided through the scriptures and the faithful and discreet slaveand as we heed the reminders of our bible-trained conscience, jehovah will bless us with his spirit.

StephaneLaliberte

*** w00 5/1 p. 17 par. 17 Hear What the Spirit Has to Say ***

As we establish a pattern of listening to ‘the word behind us’—as it is provided through the Scriptures and the faithful and discreet slave—and as we heed the reminders of our Bible-trained conscience, Jehovah will bless us with his spirit. The holy spirit will, in turn, enhance our ability to receive and understand what Jehovah tells us.

If that is not claiming to relay what Jehovahs says, I don't know what it.

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I want to send a follow-up question to my sister who has recently cut me off

by Faithful Witness in

recently, i received this email from my jw sister: .

while i appreciate the thought, please do not send us gifts.. our kids are not missing out on anything other than things we try to protect them from.. at this time, based on prior encounters and their affect on me emotionally, i think it would be best if we didn't communicate.. i hope you can understand my decision and the fact that it is not meant to offend anyone.. .

i sent her a loving and forgiving message, and know she has no intention of answering me.

StephaneLaliberte

The very problem with the JW is the constant avoiding of direct conflicts - wearther they are with others or with themselves. Right now, the siter of FW needs to face these conflicts and sending an email to say lets stop communication is avoiding these conflicts. She needs to face them head on and in her sisters very face.

Jesus didn`t tell the pharases his thoughts by letters.. he told them right in their face in front of every one. She needs to stand up and take that pressure.

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I want to send a follow-up question to my sister who has recently cut me off

by Faithful Witness in

recently, i received this email from my jw sister: .

while i appreciate the thought, please do not send us gifts.. our kids are not missing out on anything other than things we try to protect them from.. at this time, based on prior encounters and their affect on me emotionally, i think it would be best if we didn't communicate.. i hope you can understand my decision and the fact that it is not meant to offend anyone.. .

i sent her a loving and forgiving message, and know she has no intention of answering me.

StephaneLaliberte

If my sister sent me a message like this, I would drop whatever I am doing and go see her and make sure we have a final face to face talk about all this.

In short, what are the two most important commandments? Love God and your neighbors. How can you honestly say you fully live in love and give it properly if you don’t even show love to your brother. Actually, shunning is going the other way, it is taking actions NOT to demonstrate any love. It is working against love, the very thing that Jesus held as the most import thing of all.

What she is proposing is to kill the love between you two. If she truly wants to go to such extreme, she should be convinced, beyond any reasonable doubts that this is the right action to take as in the end, God will Judge people by their actions, not by their belonging to a group. And of course, all of our actions should be motivated by love. Is she convinced that such action is proper display of love?

Personally, I would not let her go easy, I would request that she explains it all to me in a very clear matter. As a last resource, I would make her reflect on the very real possibility that her kids will not stay in the truth and will end up taking contact with me. Where will she stand then?

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Ironic: g73 2/8 p. 4 The Wisdom of Admitting a Mistake

by 4thgen in

what ya all think about this?

of course, admitting we made a mistake is the right, honest and decent thing to do.

it is also the course of wisdom.

StephaneLaliberte

I love your quote 4thgen!

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Did You Ever Hear An Elder or Bethelite's Comments That Made You Question ??

by minimus in

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friends

years ago, the society's speakers used to give many off the cuff statements.

a lot of personal opinions and questionable remarks.. anything ever stand out for you in this area?.

StephaneLaliberte

NVR2L8 I don't remember the name of that brother. besides, being in a fade out mode, I must remain a little vague. :)

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Did You Ever Hear An Elder or Bethelite's Comments That Made You Question ??

by minimus in

jw
friends

years ago, the society's speakers used to give many off the cuff statements.

a lot of personal opinions and questionable remarks.. anything ever stand out for you in this area?.

StephaneLaliberte

There was a disaster in Lac Megantic (Canada, Québec) where a train exploded downtown after midnight and killed 50 people. One of the worst desasters in Quebec`s history. Now, many of the victims were at a local pub that night known as "La boite à Chanson".

In the introduction talk to a circuit assembly, the brother told the story of a JW father and his son who stopped and paused right in front of that pub around 11:30 after their working hours (cleaning) and thought about going there. However, they deemed it would be wiser to go to bed at a regular hour and be fresh for service the following day. Well, Jehovah obviously blessed them.

I wanted to walk out right there with my family. However, due to my ongoing fading-out effort, I had to take it all in like a woose.