ok. i'm not so sure i'll convey my thoughts in a conherent manner, but here goes.... tonight my daugher-in-law told me that i'm the most positive people she knows.
that my husband and i not only think about what we want, but we get it.
the only thing i could think to mention was "visialization.
Now, I struggle with the self esteem issues often. I know that somehow things do work out accordingly, but when someone actually tells me they think I'm a positive person, encouraging, and manage to get what is wanted...it sorta scares me.
Gran', your thoughts immediately reminded me of this book...almost any public library should have it.
bill and his family arrived safe and sound in nyc.
here is a picture of bill and i at the hotel: .
peace - larry .
Larry, waddayagot? A laptop and, the scourge of the WT, high speed internet connection in your room at the Waldorf?
It's almost 11:30pm in NY, don't you think it's time to hit the hay!
i've been lurking about, checking out some of the evidence against the wtbs.
i am currently inactive but still an approved/baptized member.
i have seen all the 1914/607bce evidence; the blood transfusion quandry evidence; the current child abuse problem evidence and several other things that are damning to the wt doctrines.
Are they(WTBTS) sincere in thinking they speak for God, or are they intentionally misleading people?
Why not both at the same time.
i'm not sure how to put this news gently to the community here, but regarding my post yesterday regarding chantelle.. thankyou for all of your kind messages and warmth displayed on your parts.. chantelle was only 16 when disfellowshipped.
only 18 years old with her whole life in front of her.
she took her own life this morning at 0400hrs.. i am so sorry not to have been in a better position to get your letters to her in time.. take care all of you & kindest regards.
Mark, would it be appropriate to get a 'snap-shot' of this young persons short life. She must not be forgotten, as I suspect some would rather she was.
i just got the october 15th 2002 issue of the watchtower magazine.
on pages 8 and 9 we see a caption reading " jesus firmly opposed the devil".
jesus is standing there pointing at a slouching, hooded man.
In Jehovah's world, a 'devil' doesn't necessarily need to be seen as a grotesque, hooded figure.
Satan can be easily depicted in His publications as any object the organization chooses for best immediate effect, such as a successful, but rather crazed looking individual sitting with a laptop display opened to an on-line discussion group.
this was article is also found in the toronto star internet site.
i am unclear if or when it will be in the toronto star paper.
you should find this article in numerous papers canada wide today.
Regardless of how this trial concludes and after the object of Vicki's demise returns to its free pursuit of business as usual, if necessary has there been any thought given for Vickis recovery from this brutal foray?
Edited by - Flip on 24 September 2002 10:42:34
i was outraged when i read what a friend of ours was given him by 2 jws yesterday when he asked them the question about the child molestation issue.
i can't belive the jws have the guts to pass this stuff out.
the people we were with at lunch today all looked at it and was replused at the wt's reply.. what do you think?.
They (the people we were talking with) were shocked at the things the wtbts said. And they said, "they (wtbts) had the nerve to quote the bible!"
Joy, Im interested to know, did you hand the roll of Watchtower Charmin to them and allow them to read and comment without previously influencing their thought process?
And of those reading the WTBTS infomercial, how astute were they as critical thinkers, in your opinion?
Thanks Joy,
Flip
i was outraged when i read what a friend of ours was given him by 2 jws yesterday when he asked them the question about the child molestation issue.
i can't belive the jws have the guts to pass this stuff out.
the people we were with at lunch today all looked at it and was replused at the wt's reply.. what do you think?.
Eric, you are so right, they don't get it.
Sorry Joy, but I disagree. The WTS has always shied away from attempting to argue with anyone in the attempt to convince otherwise, either groups or individuals who are already aware of, or seeks to expose WTS policy indiscretions.
Its a numbers game. The WTS only has to convince the public majority of the ignorant and apathetic, in regards to WTS policy beyond a supposedly reasonable doubt.
It appears the WTS has produced yet another masterfully opportunistic marketing ploy that can only be compromised if the points made by the WTS informational directive are scrutinized by a competently knowledgeable individual. And the corporation knows theres only very few available who can do that and who actually care.
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Edited by - Flip on 23 September 2002 23:1:30
"i don't think about when the end will come......i believe it will, like all christians but it is not a place to dwell.
we don't know when...so we just live our lives as believers doing that daily stuff.
you're right, we, as human beings dont know when 'the end' will come.
thought this was an active jw site. So my intentions of telling you all what you already know have been in vain.
Jane', "...this could be the beginning of a beautiful relationship."
Welcome!
