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  My Story

  by Kep in

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  2. experiences

  my mother and grandmother are dubs, so it was a part of my life from the start.

  both my dad and grandfather weren't, so it was what they call a divided household.. that sucked coz, after the meeting we were hurried off home to please the unbelieving mate.. so i never got to have real friends at the meetings and never had any activities outside of school.. as i got older i began to fit in with the school mates but felt restrained as we always had meetings to go to.. to cut a long story short, i got baptised when i was 18, had trouble keeping on top of meetings and witnessing etc.... i went weak, then inactive, found myself a girlfriend, non-witness, talked her thru the issues and problems i was going thru and so she decided to study.. we got married, she was baptised and things were going good.. as they were always pushing at assemblies to pioneer we felt we had to do that.. so as our circumstances allowed, she began pioneering.. you know, i look back and can say there was so much pressure put on couples who didn't have a family to seek first the kingdom.. as i had a checkered past according to some in the congo, it was a battle to attain privilidges.

  but i worked at it, i would auxillary pioneer each year and use my vacation time to do it, brown nose the co each time he visited, and bend over backwards to do anything the elders wanted done.. and as time passed i became a ministerial servant.. then in order for me to become an elder i had to really work my ass off.. so i did, i sorted things out so i could also become a regular pioneer.. after 18 months of doing that plus continually working hard for the org i was appointed elder.. my family was stoked.. i had a sister whose husband had also been appointed elder, my other sister was a regular pioneer and my brother was living with me and doing as much as he could.

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  I have only been truly freed over the last 6 months or so.
  I will write about that soon.

  Looking forward to your next installment Kep, thank you.

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  Canopy around Earth before flood ?

  by Rummy1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm sure i didn't dream this but as a jw child i seem to recall.

  this explanation for the flood:.

  before the flood it didn't rain;there was a huge canopy of water.

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  Before the flood it didn't rain;there was a huge canopy of water...Anyone buy this ??

  Rummy' For myself, it wasn't so much believing in the concept but of trying to ignore it and making damn sure one didn't dispute the logic in public.

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  The elders visited me yesterday.

  by voltaire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, it's finally over.

  last saturday i talked with an elder about how i feel about the wt.

  we talked for about 3 hours.

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  …that maybe, just maybe, they would understand my position. It hurt, to be honest. I didn't commit adultery, kill someone or rob a bank.

  Volt’ actually you did something worse, you questioned the validity of what you were told to believe was true and now you threaten their methods of disclosure.

  Organizations such as the WTBTS simply cannot survive financially as well as they do if they allow open scrutiny of their operations from those they seek to control.

  Remember to keep things in perspective, you've simply lost your job as an unpaid distributor for a publishing company where, unfortunately, there's a good chance many of your family and friends are all employees and the only customers of a jealous Corporation.

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  TALK TRANSCRIPT Ciro Aulicino-Muslims

  by Dogpatch in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  changed the lives of everyone in this country, including members of the bethel family, who had to see that [and] were traumatized.. .

  now we have been studying the bible for years and been preaching the good news of the kingdom and we have also been aware of developments that god's people have been notified through the pages of the watchtower and the awake!

  there are five developments, friends, that we're going to talk about, but i'd like to talk about the first one that we should expect to see.. .

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  you want to have a flower on your windowsill in that beautiful little home of yours

  There you are outside enjoying the sunshine and the wind on your face and when it rains you always feel great.

  Then some magazine waving fruitcake from Brooklyn New York lances your leg out from under you and with plant juice splattering everywhere keeps you alive for a day artificially because the selfish jerks 'wants to have a flower on their windowsill in that beautiful little home of theirs'.

  If I were a flower in paradise, I’d feel persecuted.

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  Update on my step son AGAIN

  by Yerusalyim in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  well, sean has committed to becoming a catholic.

  last night and this morning he called his dad to inform him of his decision.

  last night garry was very casual about it.

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  the name jehovah was invented by a dominican monk, raymundis martini

  Gee, could’ve Ray the monk been the first modern day Jehovah's Witness wannabe who considered converting from Catholicism?

  And why does Raymond Martin have the same first name as Raymond Franz? A reverse coincidence? …I think not! :)

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  What Makes A Riveting Conversation?

  by Celtic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  very wide open question, i like learning: .

  ...

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  Discussing into the wee hours, steel beam construction techniques used during the erection of the Empire State Building.

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  Average age of apostates survey.

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i thought it might be a good idea to find out at what age or after how long we descided to leave the watchtower.. prehaps we my find a patern in it which we could use .. i think what we need to know are ,.

  1.age you left the watchtower.

  (or age you found out it was wrong).

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  As a JW infant I was dragged kicking and screaming to the Kingdom Hall. Just when I thought being a Jehovah’s Witness couldn’t get any worse, I overheard something about ‘going door to door’!

  Fell hook, line and sinker for the gaff that Jehovah loved me so much he’d put a ‘cap’ in my butt if I didn’t do as He said.

  At the age of 17 one of the ‘hip’ Elders ‘studied’ with me in preparation for my ‘request’ of Holy baptism. During those fifteen minutes, I think he did almost everything but ‘bitch slap’ me in the effort for me to come to my senses but I was so stupid and/or indoctrinated I failed to clue in to his subtlety.

  However, I thought, like my peers before me, I should do the ‘disciple crawl’ in a blue plastic tub filled with un-chlorinated, luke-warm froth located at the local high-school basement cafeteria where the convention meals were served. I must say my baptism was a moving religious experience.

  Finally realized I made a major error in judgment around the age of 23. Over time, looked for a way out and decided on community college. Moved to ‘where the money was greater’ never pursued association with Jehovah’s Witnesses intentionally, other than strained family relations, weddings and funerals.

  To this day I have not been officially notified of disfellowshiping or ‘self-inflicted disassociation’ as Jehovah’s earthly corporation prefers to call it. Although, I privately renounced my subconscious allegiance to the WTBTS, after I ordered Crisis of Conscience and read the preface.

  And, that’s the way…uh-huh uh-huh…I like it…uh-huh uh-huh.

  Flip

  PS I realized you wanted a simple answer to three simple questions…tough.
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  new one!!!

  by qadreena in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi, im angel, an ex like many others on here i gather.

  ill be on regularly so speak to you all soon.

  xxx angel xxx

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  thats me, thats my story

  Up to now, of course. Get on out there 'reena, and make some more!

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  the doors

  by jolly_green_giant in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  just wondering how many doors fans are out here?

  personally, i believe they are one of the best bands ever to come into the music scene.

  imho morrison was one of the greatest poets/musicians ever.

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  Jol' the Doors as musicians, I've heard it said were of questionable technical talent, and Morrison...character.

  However, I was a guest in a projectionist’s booth one night for the Oliver Stone movie, 'The Doors'.

  Although the movie had a mixed response, during the credits I had the privilege of turning up the stereo sound...loud...for the Doors background medley.

  Through the projector window we watched as movie patrons rushing for the exits suddenly stopped in their tracks to listen and groove to the music until like 27 year old Jim, the music faded, they loved it.

  So did I.

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  crisis of principles

  by jerome in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i need to ask you exjws something serious.. i have never been a jw thankfully because i have been given the ability to look before you leap.. (i'm sorry that many of you never had that chance its just that i .

  heard that it was a "cult" so i decided to look into it).

  i posted my gf is a jw (twice by mistake sorry please delete one).

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  i'm shure many wish you knew what you did before you joinde it
  i'm sorry for offending you.

  I'm not offended Jer', just a little embarrassed for you because of how ill informed you appear to be…stick around, you might learn something.

  By the way...I was born into serving the WTBTS as a Jehovah's Witness and had no choice.

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