I thought we left the borg looking for tolerance and open mindedness. We can't attack the WT for being judgemental if we are as well. Religous freedom is a right we all have, JW's included. No one should be penalized for their beliefs as long as they do not harm others.
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JW Fired for Refusing to Sing Happy Birthday
by Kenneson inin mesquite, texas, sabrina ballantine says she was fired from razzoo's for refusing to sing happy birthday.
she is a jw, who does not believe in celebrating birthdays and singing this song.. "razzoo's settles lawsuit over religious firing.".
http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/dn-localbriefs_20bus.art.state.edition1.376bc98.html.
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What Is Your View Toward Religions & "Religious" People?
by minimus inmy take on religions in general is that they all either give hope or some type of contentment for the person who takes their religion seriously.
if they're good, they go to heaven or to some better condition.
some religions are more radical than others and these types, i stay away from.. regarding those that are very religious, i'm generalizing here, but i think most of them are extremists in one way or another.
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changeling
Can you picture me sticking my finger down my throat and gagging?
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"You don't return my phone calls!"
by zack inok. so what is the story about people getting upset with others because their phone calls are not returned?
i know that sometimes i don't return calls, but i also know that sometimes people just call to chat, gossip, bitch, and overall waste my time and add to my stress level.
second, i beleive this complaint is self centered: you didn't return my phone call.
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changeling
Sorry guys, I'm from the other camp. I return phone calls and e-mails promptly. When people don't return mine I feel they are either: very busy, did not get my message or just plain rude (depending on my experiences with this person).
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Positive changes in your life since leaving WBTS
by Mrs Smith infor me it's the friendships i have made with people that would have been considered too wordly to be friends with while i was still a jw.
leaving behind the guilt of never been good enough or doing enough.
celebrating the birthday of my precious children making them feel like king and queen for the day.
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changeling
Freedom from guilt from doing normal things. Peace of mind. Clarity of thought. Positve outlook on life. A true desire to help others. Zest for life.
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Update: So I've been going to some meetings (and other things)
by WingCommander ini've been absent from this board from some time, as i've been through alot the past few months.
firstly, my mother passed away after complications from her surgery.
so i've lost my entire family since 1999. i'm an only child.
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changeling
I'm sorry about your mom and all the other losss you've experienced. I am bewildered by your wanting to return, though I respect your desicion to do so. I feel you are setting yourself up for future hurt and dissapointment. Remember, according to the WT, you can't have it both ways. Ultimately they will get tired of your "sratteling the fence", and you will feel compeled to make desicions. "Loosy goosy" does not work for witnesses. If that happens, we will all be here to support you. In the meantime, do what is right for you, I wish you all the best.
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My Wife Asked About My Mother-
by OnTheWayOut ini use my opportunities with my wife to have mini-interventions, but i do things differently with .
my mother.
she knows that i am no longer an elder, but she hasn't asked more about what's .
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changeling
Just keep it up. Keep loving your wife and family and being a nice guy. If they have a problem with that, shame on them.
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This site is BAD for me!!!
by Metamorphosis init's making me want to rush the convincing of my wife - i want confrontation now, and i want it to go good, and i want her out with me!
how can you folks do this to me... before starting on this site i was just trying to get by myself w/ my decision - see what you've done!!!!
now i'm convinced i have to talk to her and make her see what i see!!
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changeling
Be very careful not to allow your "new found zeal" to scare your wife. If you are not careful, you could do more harm than good. But just so you know, we all know how you feel and we've been where you are. It's normal to feel this way.
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Forget You Ever Saw A Bible Or A Watchtower
by nvrgnbk innow, what are you left with?.
what does your observation of reality, the natural world around you, teach you?.
what is real?.
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changeling
Ahh, if only I could... If my mom had not become a witness and turned into a zealot missionarry wanna be, I'm pretty sure I would have been raised in an atmosphere where I was free to think. I would not be playing "catch up" with reality at a letter stage in life. I do not believe I would have been drawn to religion on my own. Currently, I regard myself as an agnostic and feel quite comfortable with this position. I'm in agreement with what I know of Humanism, but I am reluctant to affiliate with any particulat group.
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What told you that no holy spirit was moving the BOE?
by Crumpet ini've read on and off here of various things that told people that god's spirit was not directing the organisation.. personally for me on the last time i got dfed it was the fact that i got reinstated by a meeting of the boe at the exact same moment i was smoking my first cigarettes in 7 months.
i didnt question it exactly but it did seem odd.
i mean i had no idea that they were discussing my reinstatement at that moment that i succumbed and had decided in my favour.
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changeling
Let's see... I've known an annointed missionary CO who berated others every chance he got, I've known an elder who's entire family had horror stories of his verbal and emotional abuse, I've known several elders who drank way too much and way too often... to name but a few. And these are all pretty high profile elders who still serve (well, one is dead,but he died with his priviledges). No way the HS had anything to do with these people.
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Father's headstone is missing!
by mtsgrad into cut a very long story short, i grew up with a very abusive witness mother.
did the truth thing, became a pioneer and ms etc.
father (not in the truth) died just over 10 years ago.. in the last few months i have been getting some counselling to get some sort of emotional equlibrium.. today for the first time ever went to visit my fathers grave.. after 20 minutes of investigating i realised he had no headstone.
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changeling
You might find it healing to purchase one yourself one day. Might bring you some "closure".