Posts by dogon

Arcadia Fla. congergation

by dogon in

just moved back to fla and used to go to the arcadia congregation.

wanted to know if anyone goes there and who is there that i would remember.

i used to know phil and carry sutherland, the beans, dalaosas, i think i saw marie meeks in the target in pc, jack arnold and tim and jane schmidt.

Just moved back to Fla and used to go to the Arcadia congregation. Wanted to know if anyone goes there and who is there that I would remember. I used to know Phil and Carry Sutherland, the Beans, DaLaosas, I think I saw Marie Meeks in the Target in PC, Jack Arnold and Tim and Jane Schmidt. I think I found the Schmidt's in Sarasota, they were in the paper for buying a 1.7m dollar home and then selling in the crash for 680k. Wow thats gotta smart.

Bill Treavor, Bruce Hearon, I bet I would not know many there. LOL. Not that I miss any JWs, it was not a good time for me, I had a friend come to visit and they treated her like she was a whore because she was abused by her husband and left him. LOL. They told me to kick her out into the street and distance myself from her and when I did not I was treated like a leaper.

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I can't believe it, but a kid got marked for having worldy friends.

by Knowsnothing in

it's true.

last night, a kid got marked for having worldy friends.

the usual no friendship with the world texts made its way in.

dogon

Marking was a think an individual would do when there was not enough wrong doing to warrant some JC action, Public reproof was done when something was done that the public saw or was in the open but no dissfellowshipping was given.

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Pre-emptive shunning - a growing reality

by cedars in

i'm scanning through some of the results from the 2012 jw survey as they're coming in.. the most populous of the six voting categories with 76 voters so far is my own category, for those who are inactive, or "faded/fading" (not disfellowshipped or da'd, but no longer reporting time on the ministry).. one statistic already leaping out at me surrounds the question "do you experience 'pre-emptive shunning' from active witnesses, who view you as 'bad association'?

" of the 74 who voted on this so far, 76% have answered "yes" to this question.. it's early days, and obviously i will have a clearer picture of the extent of the problem once the survey closes at the end of the year.

however, the results already in suggest that pre-emptive shunning is widespread among inactive ones, despite this not being an "official" policy of the society.. i was interested in your opinions as to why this may be?

dogon

This is nothing new. In the late 70s and early 80s there was a practice called marking that got out of hand. It was encouraged by the Borg for individuals to mark someone as bad association and not include them in functions or association outside of the hall. It got out of hand real quick and they had to do a few special talks because what it did was to make OK cliques. If someone did not make it too 2 meetings in a row some of the idiots would "mark" a person. Some would mark just because they did not get along. Then the idiot ass holes who never saw a pussy in their life tired to reverse it because everyone was marking someone. It ended up being a great division in the hall. You see most people think its fine to mark others or worse but its not OK for them selfs. Its like Mark Twain said, "nothing needs reforming like other peoples habits. "

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Shouldn't we all aim to be inspired by God?

by Listener in

reading comments on this forum makes me think about so many facets in understanding god's word and how he works.

i was very puzzled as to why djeggnog had so much trouble in trying to explain the difference between being guided by god's holy spirit and being inspired.

he stopped posting when he was cornered on this.

dogon

Inspired by what? War, Starvation?, Disease? Just what about this world is so god damn god like that we should be in awe of it? If we are here by natural occurrence than awe is in line, but if an intelligent designer is to blame than he/she did a piss poor job and not only is a dead beat dad but a fucking asshole to boot.

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Do you sense that the Watchtower will implode?

by AK - Jeff in

since leaving the organization 8 years ago, there have been more significant changes in the actual, physical activities of the organization than occurred in all the 40 plus years i was 'in'.

bethel closings.

bethel layoffs.

dogon

Nope. You would think so but what is really happening is you are seeing the false base the cult is built on. From the very beginning of the cult which had its base in the Millerite movement in the 1840s. Where Miller predicted to know the end of days and it was 1846. People sold farms and did not plant crops and went to the top of some mountain to wait for Jesus and guess what? Its know known as the great disappointment of 1846. Miller was the basis for the current Witness and Adventist movements that are waiting for the end times. They are not the only ones but its a fact that the more wrong a cult is the more the members seem to rally around the cult. Yes some leave as we did, but they are replaced by people who this is all new and exciting to them. The en of the world, WOW now I don't have to go to school and worry about my 401k and I can just play till the end comes.

I personally saw how many people gave up jobs and had just enough money to live to the middle of 1976 because we were told the end was very likely in 75. Stay alive till 75 was the BS. My father in-law worked for GM. He would have retired with a nice 2k a month pension and health care. He left and moved to North Michigan to wait for the end like the rest of the lemmings. Well he ended up scrapping for a living and now he is in Kentucky barely eeking by with his SS. and he still holds on to the belief that the end is neigh. I have seen some very intelligent people who you could not pry this crap out of their heads with an eight foot crow bar. Its like someone JB welded it to their brain stem.

So yes the society has gone though some very weird times and things, like the millions now living will never die, because the end is in 1925 bla bla bla, and you know what? People still support this crap. No its not on the edge of ending because the lemmings will never think for them self in enough numbers to make it collapse. And there is one born every min. as old PT used to say.

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What do you make of THIS?

by TimothyT in

arrangement the ark the law covenant the new covenant the organisation.

leader noah moses / the high priest jesus christ the governing body.

entity for salvation the ark the tabernacle / temple the body of christ the organisation.

dogon

How can you be anti something that does not exist? Jesus is a myth and if he existed he was just a man who wanted to make a religion to keep from pounding nails, born to a woman who was screwing around and thought that telling her husband that god did it was better than telling him schekbin the stable boy knocked her up. And now we are fighting wars because some whore could not keep her legs togeather.

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I HAVE JW'S IN MY LIVING ROOM RIGHT NOW!

by TimothyT in

i looked out the window and saw a car that belongs to a jw couple who have come to see my dad.. i decided it was time for another cup of tea .

no response!

i made myself a cup of tea, and realised there were two cups just brewing, so i called into the living room: "dad are these drinks for **** and ****?

dogon

You had JWs in your living room, now thats going to leave a stain. Its going to take Jwxy clean to get it out.

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Learning to pray again

by Cinciguy74 in

so, one of the things that is catching me off guard is that i have forgotten how to pray.. as a jw we were all told to pray, but when we really look at it, the prayers are just as structured and mind numbing as those of the catholic church reciting the rosary.

what caught my attention was stephen at act 7:59 where he calls on jesus (not jehovah) to receive him.

he prayed to jesus.. yet, as a jw, the prayers you always here begin like this: "jehovah god, our loving heavenly father..." and end in "in jesus name, amen".

dogon

Nothing fails like prayer. If a man talks into a oatmeal can to go he is crazy, take away the can and he is suddenly spiritual. lOL God is only pretend.

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Has the Watchtower ever made a correct prediction?

by Fernando in

in 1889 the wbt$ predicts in detail the spiritistic scheming priestcraft it would come to embrace (due to the harlotrous gb's insatiable lust for graven unnatural spiritual intercourse or prostitution with demons):.

"the underlying principle of the great reformation, to which all protestants look back with pride, was the right of individual judgment in the interpretation of the scriptures, in opposition to the papal dogma of submission to clerical authority and interpretation.

on this very point was the whole issue of the great movement.

dogon

Not one thing, and the 1914 is like cold reading. Its like me saying a plane will blow up in the sky in october and a ship sinks and I call it getting it correct. LOL They are a big fat goose egg on getting anything right.

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This is unbelievable

by N.drew in

the scandal in australia is about the society of jehovah's witnesses refusing to file with the government of australia information that would identify persons who have been suspected of child molestation.

but in the past the watchtower has instructed their people to obey the law of the land as it pertains to interracial marriage.. http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/quotes/black-skin.php.

"in a few places, there are even laws making interracial marriages illegal.

dogon

You have to assume that the high ups in the WBTS are kiddie fuckers them selfs. I bet some of those old men in the WTBTS are doing as many bethalites as possible. Maybe this is whey so many seem gay. I thought it was a prerequisite to go to bethel to be gay.