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  JW Conventions vs BRCI Conferences

  by Amazing in

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  jw convention exhortations: brothers, please be at your seats, the program is about to begin.

  you should have already eaten and gone to the bathroom by now.

  it is time to take your seats and enjoy the fine spiritual feast that comes from the loving provision of gods organization.

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  Francois

  They really do beat that "spiritual food" metaphor to a pulp, don't they? And as you noted really get off on that "in loco parentis" behavior.

  I don't know about you, but I went to the conventions in order to maintain my friendships with other young people in my congregation (yeah, married by then).

  I liked it lots better when I went to assemblies to get laid. It was a damn sight easier than going to a bar to get laid. And you know, when I've described all that to some of my friends who were really into the Borg they are astounded.

  "Get LAID?" They'd say, mouth agape. "At an assembly? I didn't know that kind of thing went on at assemblies?"

  "You think you can put twenty-five hundred each of male and female teens and young adults together in a heaving, hot mass and not have nature take over?"

  "But assemblies? Where the FDS is presenting all that spiritual food? It's sacreligious?" He'd say.

  "It's stupid to think anything else, that's what it is." I'd say. "It was a feast, though, I'll give you that. But not the kind the FDS had in mind."

  Now let's have a show of hands. Who among you regularly got laid at assemblies? And I mean assemblies of any size, any place. My experience covered mainly places in the southeast like Gatlinburg, TN; Asheville, NC; Big Stone Gap, VA; Jacksonville, FL.

  OK TIME TO FESS UP. How many of you?

  Francois

  Where it is a duty to worship the Sun you can be sure that a study of the laws of heat is a crime.
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  Sign of the Beast

  by seedy3 in

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  i just finished watching a program on the book of revelation.

  it was a very interesting program.

  but one thing i came out with was a puzzle.

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  Francois

  You guys are all wet. The number of the beast, 666, is only a starting place for the true cognoscenti.

  First you start with 666 and divide by the square root of minus one.

  Then you plug that into the b (for beast) position in the quadradic equation and solve for a.

  Ok, got that? Now, take this product and add the amount of change in your left pocket and divide that number by Claudia Schiffer's IQ. (This is refered to as the Schiffer Brains maneuver.) Once you've got Schiffer Brains you're getting close to understanding the entire tortilla, or is that magilla? Anyway, you take the Schiffer Brains number and elaborate a simple excresence and multiply by any Fibonacci sequence, invert using the PDP 11-32 matrix inverter. Write this answer on a yellow sticky note on which you have put a small spot of Helllman's Mayo. Leave this on your refrigerator door, making sure that there's at least one housefly in the room. When the housefly leaves a flyspeck on the mayo spot VIOLIN! You've got the mark of the beast.

  And this makes just as much fuckin' sense as all the other bullshit on this thread.

  Where it is a duty to worship the Sun you can be sure that a study of the laws of heat is a crime.
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  Euro-English

  by TheHighPriest in

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  i have heard from a reliable source that the eu commission stands unified by a 5 year plan to introduce what they call "euro-english".. the pom's have accepted saying there is room for improvement in our language:.

  in the first year, "s" will be used instead of the soft "c".

  sertainly sivil servants will reseive this news with joy.

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  Francois

  Someone please clear something up for me.

  I thought that POM meant "Prisoner Of herMajesty" POM. And that it refered to people from New Zealand and Oz. Not so? I thought it specifically did NOT refer to Brits, Limeys.

  No?

  Franc

  Where it is a duty to worship the Sun you can be sure that a study of the laws of heat is a crime.
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  questions i should ask

  by tattoogrl333 in

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  i have just begun recently to meet with a jw to study the bible and various material that i have been given.

  i have no prior religous background and have only started to read the bible about 3 mo ago.

  after reading a lot of the posts i have noticed a lot of people talking about how when they started to question jw beliefs, they were shunned.

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  Francois

  My advice to you is to get on our Nikes and start running as fast as you can over the horizon and don't stop to look back, they may be gaining on you.

  When you get to a nice, safe spot, read those two books by Ray Franz that have been recommended to you.

  Where it is a duty to worship the Sun you can be sure that a study of the laws of heat is a crime.
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  Episodes of Craziness

  by JWD in

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  over the last ten years or so i`ve seen and heard things which when.

  looked at objectively can only be termed `craziness`.however, in some.

  cases these episodes of craziness might be viewed as wonderful testimonies to a strong commitment to jahovah.

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  Francois

  Growing up here in the south (USA) there was an elder who had two sons. Of course, they didn't celebrate Christmas, but every year about midway between Thanksgiving and Christmas the elder and his wife took these two sons out shopping and they could buy anything they wanted. And not just one thing, but several.

  My mother, kneejerk JW that she is, doesn't celebrate the "evil" celebrations of the world. But every year when I would come home at Thanksgiving, she would cook a turkey as big as Rhode Island with all the other traditional fixins. When I pointed this out, she said that just because she was cooking a turkey it didn't mean that she was celebrating Thanksgiving. Go figure. I actually don't know just how you DO celebrate Thanksgiving besides cook a turkey and consume it.

  When I pointed out that she wasn't supposed to have anything to do with me, DFed three years after I walked out, she had no answer except to ask if I'd rather she not have anything to do with me. "It's your religion, mom, and it's up to you do decide how you will observe it. The preferences of the outcast have nothing to do with it. You decide."

  Franc

  Where it is a duty to worship the Sun you can be sure that a study of the laws of heat is a crime.
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  The secret of SUE revealed

  by Sue in

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  ok, now i reveal the truth about sue.

  1/ i am a woman.. 2/ i am german.

  3/ i am disfellowshipped.

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  Francois

  Is Sue all that different? She's throwing in with six million other brain-dead zombies. Ya can't can't convince someone against their will.

  Franc

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  Sex before marriage and contraception.

  by inquiringmind in

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  i am not a jw, but my future husband is.

  we don't broach the subject much of religion, as it only causes arguments, as we see things differently.

  i would like to know the jw views on sex before marriage, and contraception.

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  Francois

  What are you planning on doing about your children and in which religion they are to be raised? You must realize by now that the JWs aren't just another Christian religion, don't you?

  Your boyfriend isn't even supposed to be seeing anyone outside his exclusivistic little cult, don't you know that?

  The JWs are a cult; a cult by any and all defintion. And once the bloom is off the rose - as it always is after a year or two - and you realize just how destructive and divisive the JWs are AND that your husband wants to, insists on, raising your children in his cult, how are you gonna feel about it? Especiallly since you two can't even speak about it now without arguing (Fill in the blank: HE - "Honey, I'm taking Jimmy to the Kingdom Hall and prepare him for baptism into my cult so that he can despise you for not being in it with us. What do you think?" YOU - "Say what? Let me tell you one thing, you ________________."

  I have a bad feeling about this.

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  When did you think Armageddon would come?

  by comment in

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  i was just thinking about this.

  having been raised "in the truth" post-1975, i didn't grow up with any specific year in mind.

  yes, there was the notion of "this generation will by no means pass away," but by the time i was old enough to think about that concept, the people who were born in 1914 (to stretch it out as far as possible, as the society ultimately did) were still only in their 60's.

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  Francois

  Never. I never did believe that Armageddon was ever going to be a reality. I was drug to meetings beginning about 1953. Didn't believe it then, don't believe it now, nor at any time in between.

  Just don't think God is the type to murder off 99.98888888888% of his children for what amounts to a ritual error. That's a pretty small-minded and mean concept of God's nature and character.

  Love & Peace,
  Franc

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  I refuses to be just an Ex...

  by paradix in

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  i stopped my activities today and started to ask myself: what now?.

  could the life be this, to be an ex something, ex jw, ex preacher.?.

  i think the big part of people who left the wts has arrived there in firs time looking for something more.. the big questions to be answered.

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  Francois

  You are absolutely, totally, utterly correct. There's much more to life than being an ex-. An ex-anything.

  And if you spend all your time being an ex, you become just like the thing you're opposed to. After all, is there any difference between a proton and an anti-proton?

  Thanks for bringing it up.

  Franc

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  Do You Think WTS Reacts to Internet Info?

  by Had Enough in

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  while i was an active jw, i remember so often that whenever we had a question that couldn't be answered, we would hear: "just wait a little bit and you can be sure it will be brought out in an article soon.

  " and sure enough, it happened just like that, time and time again.. my topic title question has been rolling around in my head ever since hearing the talks and the drama dialogue as i posted earlier on the topic "dc subtle propaganda".. the wts obviously knows many of its members are lurking here and other sites, and their lies are getting more exposure than ever before, and i feel as though the org is keeping tabs on these sites.

  many here have been telling their experiences and life stories revealing many skeletons from the wts closet, openly criticizing the attitudes and harsh actions of the org.. these are just a few of the phrases hammered at repeatedly as reminders at the dc this past weekend:.

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  Francois

  Yes, of course they monitor the net. Best way in the world to see what's coming up soon.

  And, like all organizations and individuals who have no confidence in themselves and their positions, they respond with ever more draconian and inflexible policies. Which will cause the best people who remain to leave. And in the end the entire body of the Dubs will consist in the dregs of its membership. Old folks too old to change. Bright young people who will bug out as soon as they get the chance. And dumbos, too damn dumb to realize what's going on right before their eyes. And can you imagine the quality of the people who will be left to serve as elders? They'll run off an ever increasing number of people who can't abide a dumb-ass with a little authority. I can see it now; can't you?

  This is the time of the end, alright, the time of the end of the WTB&TS, and it couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch of bastards. And I will be standing on the sidelines cheering in celebration of their demise for all the pain they've caused in my life. Fuck 'em, I say.

  Franc

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