Posts by Francois

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Ritsfield Victory!

by silentlambs in

hello everyone,.

i am bill's wife.he just called me from washington and told me to let you all know that erica won her case today!.

that sick child molesting bastard is in jail now as we speak.. his sentencing is set for september 24th i think.. one down many more to go.. thanks to all who have supported this cause.. sheila

Damn, what a thread. Mommy in a response to Dana up the thread a way, you state that some perspective of hers must be "in her head." I don't know if you're aware of it, but virtually ALL child abusers when confronted state that the abuse they're being confronted with is just the abusee's "imagination." This is invalidating, marginalizing, and exculpatory. When anyone uses that kind of approach later in life, it pushes buttons all over the place. It really does take a lot of sensistivity to speak to an adult survivor and not step on toes.

I'm 56 years old and was raised in an utterly dysfunctional home. My father was a drunken, loud, threatening, semi-illiterate ass hole. He ruled by intimidation. No one knew what microscopic infraction was going to set him off - or even if an infraction was needed. Sometime he exploded for no reason at all. He would even get furious at inantimate objects like, say, a hammer. And would throw it across a room. I saw him get angry at a wrench once and he picked up a ten pound sledge hammer and beat the wrench with it. No kidding.

I've got most of my "father" buttons disconnected. However a few remain. And it's not a good idea to even get close to, much less press, one of my father buttons. The sensitivity that remains, all these years later, is truly amazing. And the intensity of my reactions surprises even me. Just be careful is all I'm saying. The way you address Dana really is over the top.

Francois

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Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID)

by Wounded Heart in

used to be called multiple personality disorder (mpd).. i have it.

i was physically, emotionally, sexually abused.

the tramas in my life were so great that i split into many.

Francois

Hello. I'm still here, and still willing to help in any way I can. I've been in contact, btw, with the Sidran Foundation about writing a book for them about how to partner with a person who has DID. We're working on a contract now.

Francois

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Simplifying

by Norm in

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we know that the above word has become one of the most used ones in the brooklyn vocabulary the last decade.

almost everything in the watchtower organization has been simplified.. here is a very good idea for further simplifying.

this one is for free for you boys in the service department.

Francois

Norm, that's brilliant. And I think it could be developed even further. The process could start with the tree harvesters. Who would be paid for cutting the trees, but not actually cutting them.

The truckers would be paid for not delivering them.

The paper mill would be paid for not making the paper.

The WT society, as you say, could be paid for not shipping them.

The Post Office could be paid for not delivering them.

In the end, the publishers would have to take it in the end, but that's where they're getting it now anyway. Just pay up for nothing. Bingo. Publishers could turn in time for not going out to sell this shit.

And look at all the labor being saved. We already do this by paying farmers not to plant crops!!

It's just a marvelous idea, Norm, and I'm with you all the way on this.

Francois

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Would God really bother with such insignificance ?

by Simon in

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there is a program on here at the moment called 'space' and last week was about the sheer number of stars.

for each grain of sand on every beach on the planet there are millions or billions of stars.. if there was a god, that would make us smaller than something minescule sat on an atom.

and yet they claim that he 'sent his firstborn son to die for us' (who incidentally created all this?)..

Francois

I'm with you, Simon. I fully believe the universe is TEEMING with life. I do think that something went awry on the planet that keeps it quarantined from the normal spiritual economy of the universe; but something from which the planet will one day recover. But life IMO is everywhere; the creation is crawling with it.

And one day we'll know for sure.

Unfortunately, it's likely we'll all have to die to find out for sure.

Francois

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Memorial ultimatum

by Ranchette in

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i recieved this email and thought i'd share:.

xxxxxxxx.

i heard a piece of gossip the other day from a friend in california that i thought was outrageous and right on par for the borg.... it seems a 20-something sister in a southern calafornia congregation has dedided she is one of the annointed much to the chagrin of her elder body.they have tried everything to disuade her from this path.in a last ditch effort to come up with arguments against her, the elders'wives were sic'd on her and they came up with a piece of information that they felt would be useful...it seems this sister is also pregnant with her first child and is very much looking forward to breast-feeding.so the brothers told her that if she wants to partake at the next memorial she can't breastfeed---because the wine would transfer to the milk and the baby is not annointed!this sister is heart-broken,she feels she must choose between her motherly obligation and her spiritual one!.the advice i passed on to her via my grape-vine was to think long and hard what decision she might make if for some reason her baby needed a life-saving blood transfusion...if the borg won't let her take a sip of wine it will surely not let her save her childs life with a transfusion!.

Francois

Not so.

Wine is not passed through the placental barrier. The alcohol passes through, but the wine does not.

Neither is matzo cracker passed through the placenta.

And finally, the whole argument is moot. The baby is not making any choice in this transaction.

However, if this young woman is so dense she can't see the obvious flaws surrounding this cult, and along with it this ridiculous fiction dreamed up by the "sisters" in the congregation, then perhaps she deserves what she gets.

In my congregation just outside Atlanta, GA, one of the "glorious ones" took it upon himself to monitor who partook of the emblems, and if he didn't agree that someone should have done so, confronts the person - spouting all sorts of dire warnings about those who wrongly partake. CB was like that; a self-appointed, self-righteous, self-important bastard. And that was on the good days.

I dated a woman for six years who was a member of the Episcopal Church, and I regularly participated in the eucharist, which means a kind of joyful gratitude - with yearning, and I'm here to tell you those Episcopalians know how to put on a show. I never did discover what kinda wine they were using, but WOW!. I can tell you it wasn't any dollar ninety-eight Mogen David from Kroger. This was the good stuff. Holy Moly. Where do I sign up?

Francois

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How would you react to a sheparding call?

by friendorfoe in

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put aside for a moment your statis of the organization, it's saturday morning and your on the other side of the ole familar knock.

"hello i'm brotherdoesnthavealife i haven't seen you in a while" how would you react?.

it happened to me after about 6 years of being inactive and it was an elder and a c.o.

Francois

I did do this.

"Hello brother xxxxxxx. This is brother butterbean, our new c.o. We are here to help you adjust your thinking."

"You couldn't adjust my pilot light. And you're not welcome to just barge in any damn time you want. If you want to speak with me, you'll have to call a few days ahead and make an appointment."

"But..."

SLAM!

Simple. Clean. No muss. No fuss. As has been said, I ain't gonna be cornered in my own home. And I'm not gonna hide either.

I say JWs got no right to act like some goddamn Gestapo, and I say fuck 'em.

Francois

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HELP Needed in custody case!

by Esmeralda in

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i received a letter last night (as many of you did) about a particular.

custody battle being fought by a poster on this board.. she just found out that she lost custody of her 3 children to her jw ex, despite the fact that they are in danger of being exposed to a pedophile relative through this man.. i am asking anyone who may know anything about setting up a legal defense fund (or anyone who knows about utah custudy law/ lawyers in utah) to please respond to this post.

time is of the essence, the girls have already gone back to their father today.

Francois

I wish it was as easy as all that to use "all kinds of manipulation" and win custody of minor children. The fact that 95% of custody is awarded to the mother is morally, ethically, and statistically indefensible, but that's another story.

The fact that a mother was unable to retain custody of minor children when the odds were so overwhelmingly in her favor tends to indicate that there was something going on with the mother that so repulsed the court that it felt it had no choice but to go against almost a century of precedence.

In Georgia for instance, where the ratio is something like 97:3, the mother must be ruled mentally incompetent, be incarcerated, or something else pretty bad (a judge in Cobb county famously said, "I seen a calf follow a cow; I ain't never seen a calf follow no bull. Custody is awarded to the mother. Even a prostitute's got the right to her children." And this ruling was handed down 25 miles outside Atlanta!)

Just for grins, it's interesting to note that according to DFACS records, when the mother is non-custodial, compliance with court orders for child support is 21% worse than when the father is non-custodial. So much for dead-beat dads; can you say dead-beat parent?

Anyway. If a mother cannot retain custody of minor children at the Superior Court level, the battle is truly uphill. Usually, the only argument to take to the appellate court is that the judge abused his descretionary power. So you've got some person's brethern on the bench who they meet every day at the Club of the High & Mighty for lunch ruling that their Superior Court buddy over-reached. It ain't a pretty picture. And it's damn costly to get to the appellate court, too.

Face it. If you ain't got lots of money, you can't fight a case like this. You get the kind of justice you can afford in this country. It's essentially hopeless. And this is just the reason why so many fathers - who have lost all hope and who have no money - take their children and disappear. They've been fucked by a system that's biased in favor of the mother, and which sets up a situation where the mother can and does use children as weapons of revenge. It ain't a pretty picture. And only women can change it by demanding equal treatment in domestic law. When that happens, many men will for the fist time be interested in things like equal pay for equal work, the glass ceiling, etc.

Francois

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Episodes of Craziness

by JWD in

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over the last ten years or so i`ve seen and heard things which when.

looked at objectively can only be termed `craziness`.however, in some.

cases these episodes of craziness might be viewed as wonderful testimonies to a strong commitment to jahovah.

Francois

Story from East Tennessee where a sister moved with her family into a rented house, but were immediately bothered by the "deeminz" who were up to all sorts of no good, dirty, and down-right low-down tricks. Well. This couldn't be tolerated. So, the search was on. Why were the deeminz hainting this house?

They looked every where. High. Low. In between. Under stuff. On toppa stuff. Behind stuff. In front of stuff. Everywhere. Till finally, finally they found the SOURCE!!! The ackshual source.

They discovered that if you looked hard enough, at the right angle, with the light just right, you could see it - right there - clear as day - there was a cross-like object in the pattern in the wallpaper. CURSES! CROSSES! CRAPOLA! Gotta get that stuff outta there.

The J-dubs had a wallpaper tearing out party at her house that weekend. And since that deemized wallpaper was ever-whur, they near 'bout had to take down all the wallpaper in the house. And then they put up someathat wallpaper what don't got no crosses in it. And guess what? VIOLIN! No more deeminz.

And so, brothers and sisters, we all ourghta get down on our knees and face Mecc...um, and thank Jehovah for the sharp eyed son of a bitch that figgered out them crosses in the wallpaper and helped expel them deeminz from her house. Doncha think?

Francois

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Why Japanese become JWs

by JWD in

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i have posted some of the following info in various other threads i`ve.

started which touch on the matter of jws in japan.however,people continue to ask me `why japanese become jws?`,so i thought i`d put.

down a few of my observations for anyone who might be interested.. as you may or may not have noticed,japan has(had) the fifth largest number of jws in the world.

Francois

And all this time I've been thinking that the reason so many Japanese bought into the JWs was because the Dubs over there go door-to-door dressed up in rubber Godzilla suits and threaten to burn their houses down with their flame-thrower breath of they don't take the Watchtower and its companion magazine, the Awake!

Or something like that.

Francois

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My Aunt Passed Away & I'd like to talk

by Bendrr in

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on tuesday, my mom called me at work to tell me my aunt linda passed away.

she'd had diabetes and kidney problems for years.

tuesday, she was on dialysis and her blood pressure bottomed out and she just went to sleep and never woke up.

Francois

Bendrr, I hope you can make it down here to the beach like you've been planning. You need it man.

My own uncle is nine years older than I am. He was always my hero. I wanted to be just like him. Because I was raised in a dysfunctional family and got no validation there, what self-confidence I had came from my uncle.

When he graduated college with a degree in organic chemistry, I went after the same degree. He was in track & field; so was I. He "tred the boards" in a drama troup in school; me too. He was a JW; so I went after it too. He was a mineral collector; I've got a collection too.

I saved my lunch money in high school in order to buy a bus ticket to his home in east Tennessee. Stayed there three or four weeks each summer. When I went to college, I lived with him while I attended ETSU.

Later, when I lived in Atlanta, his daughter, my cousin, came to live with me as she sought her "fortune" and we all atteneded the same hall together.

Of course, I'm only hitting the shavings from the top of the tip of the iceberg here.

Then the shit hit the fan between myself and the JWs, starting with the beard and quickly degenerating into many, many other things.

To make a long story miserable, he cut me off for 16 years. Only recently have we had limited contact. And I don't know why he's doing even that much. But for 16 years there was a giant hole in my spirit where Robert used to be and no one could fill it. And now there's limited contact, I've discovered that after all those years of betrayal, he can't fill it now either.

So, then, there's a dead spot in my soul, put there by his mindless loyalty to the WTBTS. I don't really blame them so much as I blame him. He was a senior organic research associate at Eastman Chemicals. He knows better than to swallow whole the teachings of this creepy, anti-intellectual cult, but he did it anyway.

That doesn't keep me from despising the bastards, though.

Francois