Posts by sacrebleu

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Avoiding an Elder

by R.F. in

i'm almost six months past walking away from the religion, and one of the elders has risen and thrown a monkey wrench into my entire plan.

things have been great actually.

since i've managed to shed myself of congregation responsiblities, the elders have gotten off my back quite a bit.

sacrebleu

RF,

I wrote a DA letter and then they called and demanded that I meet with them.

The elder said I "had to." I told him I didn't "have to" do anything.

They announced my DF the next Sunday and yes, my sisters did shun me.

Be careful.

sacrebleu

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i was at the sunday meeting today (i know, i know...) and i heard this one guy give a comment about how hollywood movies always portray rich people as happy and successful, so that's proof that satan controls the film industry because it's a lie.. .

i struggled to think of one recent hollywood film that portrayed anyone as being happy, let alone rich and happy.

if they made a movie like this guy was describing, it wouldn't sell.

sacrebleu

Zack,

You forgot the last part of the quote.

"If money is a curse, may God smite me with it... And may I never recover!" Fiddler on the Roof

One of my favorite movies.

sacrebleu

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For those of you who don't go to meetings anymore...

by exwitless in

when you attended your last meeting ever as a dub, did you know it was your last?

did something happen which made it clear in your mind you were 'never going back' (not to be confused with nvrgnbk)?.

the last meeting we went to was the memorial in 2006. we only went because we knew we were already pegged for the elders' unwanted attention, so we had to go to keep them off our backs a little longer.

sacrebleu

I don't have the date. I wish I did. But I do remember the last meeting.

My baby son and I had been really sick. I had not been out in service for quite a while but had been sick for a long time. I went to a special talk by some visiting "dignitary" and afterward told him it was interesting. He leaned into my face and said, "You are xxxxx, aren't you?"

I said yes. Then he hatefully said, "You have not been out in service for six months." I thought for a minute and then replied that was probably true. He did not ask after my health, my finances, my children, my marriage, my transportation needs. NOTHING.

He looked at me with hatred and pronounced the judgement, "YOU ARE NO JEHOVAH'S WITNESS!!"

I was crushed at first, but then stumbled to the car and just sat there in the summer heat and thought about what he'd said. My loving heavenly Father gradually, slowly brought Scriptures to my mind about wolves in sheep's clothing and others like that. I finally decided that if I had to be that HATEFUL AND HAUGHTY, maybe I wasn't a JW. I never went back.

I truly do wish I knew the date. I wrote my letter later after reading C of C and getting tired of their un-announced visits. I never answered the door.

sacrebleu

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I just received a LOVELy letter from Trevor

by mouthy in

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in answer to the one i sent him..i had sent him some christian tracts .which he admits he has little use for spiritual things ( which i can understand bless him) but he did say he wouldnt throw them away one day maybe!!!.

he said that he agreed with me that an apology is truly in order ,& wanted to take this time & the opportunity to offer an unreserved apology for his conduct on jwd,of which he is both ashamed & embarrassed to everyone there /\....he also added he wished you all a very happy christmas.. .

he added that he has not been on jwd since ....thought i would let you all know.. so any who do pray .

sacrebleu

I STILL say that IF Trevor would turn his talent to writing fiction for a living, he'd be RICH.

WHY can't he do that. Then he would have nothing to be sorry for.

sacrebleu

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Shunning a Jehovah's Witness - They don't like it!

by jambon1 in

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an elder who lives nearby has decided to be play the twat with me recently.

i have been out for nearly 2 years, which makes it even more pathetic on his part.. after leaving, this character (thinking i was depressed), would give me the most tactless, thoughless advice that you have ever heard.

he loved 'giving it to me' right outside my house.

sacrebleu

I have no problem with you shunning a JW. More power to you.

But, do you know what the word "twat" means in the US? What does it mean in the UK?

sacrebleu

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If U Had To Make A Choice----The Internet or a TV?

by minimus in

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which would it be?

sacrebleu

TV is not in our budget. It is outragiously expensive, repetitive, often offensive and not needed.

The internet on the other hand is cheaper, very informative and worth the money.

That is the decision we make every month.

sacrebleu

21

Went off outside walmart.

by dogon in

i was loading my purchase in my car yesterday when i saw out of the corner of my eye a 20 something man in suit and tie walk up to me and he was holding what i knew was a watchtower.. after 30 years of slavery and i was running late i went off on him, before he could even open his mouth i said, i was part of your cult for 30 years before i left.

he asked what made me leave, i told him that if when christ came invisibly to earth in 1914 and saw russell and his little group of bible students were the only people who had it right and so gave him authority over his earthly preaching work, why would you be disfellowshiped for teaching anything russell tought?

if the bible says that a person who predicts something to happen and it does not come to pass he is a false profit and the society had not been right on one thing, i told him i lived through [stay alive till 75] and knew many who sold their homes and had enough to live on just until 75 and again nothing happend, did he know that the second pres.

sacrebleu

They started coming by the house. My hubby has never been a JW and wasn't married to me when I was in, so I had my hubby talk to them and try to get the new JW only rag out of them. They gave him all kind of other junk, but finally came by with an elder and said the only way he can get that particular rag is to go to the KH for a meeting.

Yeah, like THAT is going to happen.

Anyway, now we can let them go. We will write to them and tell them not to come back and why.

The whole time we were pulling this off, I would feel anxious and nervous and mad and angry. You name it. Every time they came by. I am almost glad they wouldn't be talked into parting with their stupid rag. That means I don't have to deal with them anymore.

And someone posted the thing on the internet anyway. Thank GOD! Now I don't have to deal with these emotions because these "people" are on my porch talking to my husband while I hide inside so they won't know me.

sacrebleu

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How do the JW's justify selling old Kindom Halls to Christendom?

by oppgirl63 in

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in a town near where i live the kh was sold and i noticed a couple of weeks ago a sign was put up...church of god in christ.

i know it's all about money....but it just seems hypocritical to me.

i mentioned it to my rommie...she didn't even bat an eye, like it was no big deal..

sacrebleu

And on the OTHER side of the issue, a local pastor and his wife bought an old KH for their church. I warned THEM that THEY should pray to God for protection and told them that I would help. The Pastor's wife was very haughty (gee-reminded me of JWs) and told me they didn't need my help.

They had nothing but trouble with the building and eventually leased it to another church. Some say the JWs evil spirits ruined the deal. Others say that the pastor would "bring 'em in" and the pastor's wife would "run 'em off." Who knows.

I actually attended services at both churches. It felt really weird to go to a REAL church in that old building. When they leased to the second church, a very loving man was pastoring there and gave a message about coming full circle to our first faith. I had to laugh since I was worshipping in the same building where I used to sit like a wooden indian and sing funeral dirges with a bunch of judgemental old sticks.

Actually partaking of the bread and wine at communion was very meaningful for me there. Ah the irony..

Just my take on things...

sacrebleu

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If you STILL believe in GOD, what do you believe is the RIGHT way?

by Bourne in

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i should preface this by saying that this is generally directed towards the premise of still believing in the christian god, the bible as the inspired word of god, and the desire to worship him in spite of the disillusionment of the jw "take" on "true" christianity.. i am left with many unanswered questions, but don't get me wrong, i don't have "having all answers" listed as a prerequisite to worship god, because even the bible doesnt list all answers, ......faith is expected in at least some areas.

so........that said....... please grace little ol' me with your sincere answers to the following questions:.

1. is this the last days?.

sacrebleu

I believe that Jesus is the only one who can "save" me. I can worship in a church or not. It doesn't matter.

Here is what churches are for:

When my husband had open heart surgery the church took up a collection and gave us over $1000, fixed our roof and brought us cooked meals and groceries.

When my JW sisters wanted my mom in a nursing home and I called the pastor crying out for help, he and his wife were here with a notary public within 30 minutes. They helped my mother appoint my husband and me as her sole legal decision makers.

When I am depressed, sick, angry, or downhearted, I have someone to call on. When I want prayer for myself or a relative, I have people who care and will visit me and pray for me. Never had that as a JW.

THAT is all the church can do. That and POSSIBLY help educate you about the Bible. That is ALL.

No one died for me but Christ. Since leaving the JWs, I have consistantly refused to take a name other than Christian no matter where I go to church or what denomination is listed over the door. That may not answer all of your questions, but this is for me the most important point. Christ and Christ alone.

God bless your socks off!

sacrebleu

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Silent Lambs march on Brooklyn Headquarters

by sacrebleu in

here is the link to the news footage.. http://youtube.com/watch?v=53ju4g7ia4.

if this doesn't work just search for it on you tube.

i can't get my computer to copy and paste on this forum.. i don't know when this aired.

sacrebleu

Someone sent me the link this morning so I thought it was brand new. I cried and everything. I know the devastation caused by this sort of abuse even when it is delt with at the time. I can only imagine how much damage it causes to be shut up and/or shunned. These people are truly wicked. I know that and yet it strikes me anew now and then. I so wish my family members could see and "come out of her my people!"

sacrebleu