Hello all, I was doing a little research and always had interest in the "god fathers did not know" "foreign god" from Daniel 11:38. I fell into reading up on our current "oil age" and was surprised to find out that it is on its way out. Unfortunately all the things developed from this age such as plastics, cosmetics, medicines, Raid (for those buggys), and a miriad of other things is kinda of bundled up in it too. As a matter of fact our population boom since the industrial age is directly tied to the discovery of the oil deposits in the earth. Life just got easier and families just got a little simpler to make. If ya know what I mean. Anyway do you think this bit of scripture could apply to the overwhelming dependance oil has become in this world and its power to make world leaders and our economy go a stone cold crazy. I welcome your thoughts please. DJ Poetech www.jehovahswitnessbooks.com
DJPoetech
JoinedPosts by DJPoetech
-
4
Daniel 11:38,39 referencing Oil Age?
by DJPoetech ini was doing a little research and always had interest in the "god fathers did not know" "foreign god" from daniel 11:38. i fell into reading up on our current "oil age" and was surprised to find out that it is on its way out.
unfortunately all the things developed from this age such as plastics, cosmetics, medicines, raid (for those buggys), and a miriad of other things is kinda of bundled up in it too.
as a matter of fact our population boom since the industrial age is directly tied to the discovery of the oil deposits in the earth.
-
25
Is the "stump" related to Babylon the Great?
by DJPoetech inis the "stump" or "banded rootstock" of dan chap 4 related to babylon the great of our day?.
i know generally how the wtbts of course turns all prophetic scriptures to benefit themselves.
we all know where that gets us.. has anyone done or heard any research on the matter?
-
DJPoetech
yeah your right aniron.
The Watchtower just has this way of turning all prophecy to ultimately point to themselves in a beneficial way. This is one of the many ways that makes their assertions suspect.
I don't believe them and the prophecy just doesn't fit.
DJP
-
25
Is the "stump" related to Babylon the Great?
by DJPoetech inis the "stump" or "banded rootstock" of dan chap 4 related to babylon the great of our day?.
i know generally how the wtbts of course turns all prophetic scriptures to benefit themselves.
we all know where that gets us.. has anyone done or heard any research on the matter?
-
DJPoetech
Ann: What makes you think there is a connection with Babylon the Great in Dan. 4?
Well Babylon the Great of Revelation has similar qualities to the Babylon of Dan 4. Thus the name.
I think the two prophecies support each other. Revelation 17 talks about "Babs" being drunk with the blood of holy ones and the witnesses of Jesus. This could span anywhere from the time of Jesus first appearance to his second. Daniel 4 speaks of the rootstock being left for Seven Times. Now seven is often depicted as completeness and King Nebz didn't return to his former self until after seven years. The key though is that "at the end of the days" King Nebz recognized God's right to rule.
Now if our tree stump had implications that spanned longer than just seven years, the seven times the rootstock is in place could last until Jesus' second return.
Consider this. When the Israelites finally were released back to their homeland they also carried with them Babylonish systems of thought. Thus the Pharisees and Saduccees developed.
I'm still searching trying to follow these roots to our modern day...
DJP, sorry for bad spelling.
-
9
3/08 Awake!: Is There One True Religion?
by Watkins ina dear old jw couple who are like an aunt and uncle to me, sent it in the mail.
the note said, in particularly to my husband, which i thought odd since he's never feigned the slightest interest, ""we thought you'd find pages 3-9 of interest, "is there one true religion".
we both feel that the decision we made (a zillion) years ago in choosing a way of worship was the correct one.
-
DJPoetech
The Watchtower uses a circular argument recipe to keep sheeple dizzy. Observe:
1. God's Organization (the Watchtower) says you need
God's Organization to understand the Bible because
2. the Bible says you do, and the only reason you know the bible says
this is because
3. God's Organization says that that's what is says
4. Add 1/2 cup false prohecies that benefit themselves, and stir
DJP
-
25
Is the "stump" related to Babylon the Great?
by DJPoetech inis the "stump" or "banded rootstock" of dan chap 4 related to babylon the great of our day?.
i know generally how the wtbts of course turns all prophetic scriptures to benefit themselves.
we all know where that gets us.. has anyone done or heard any research on the matter?
-
DJPoetech
Well I stand corrected. After reading through Daniel I do notice that the prophecies are for future fulfillment particularly Chapters 2 and 7-12.
Although... the description of the tree in Chapter 4 does seem grander and bigger than just a 7 year illness of King Neb. Especially when in verse 15 it talks about a banding of iron and of copper which are similar to the metals in the immense statue in Chapter 2 which is accepted to represent 100s of years. Just that commonality alone could give Chapter 4's prophecy a greater time span than just King Neb's 7 years.
If it did, could it somehow relate to Babylon the Great of today?
Thanks AnnOMaly, your helping the Ol brain exercise.
DJP
-
25
Is the "stump" related to Babylon the Great?
by DJPoetech inis the "stump" or "banded rootstock" of dan chap 4 related to babylon the great of our day?.
i know generally how the wtbts of course turns all prophetic scriptures to benefit themselves.
we all know where that gets us.. has anyone done or heard any research on the matter?
-
DJPoetech
Wouldn't there have been a greater fullfillment of this prophecy like the others?
-
17
"New light"...
by Awakened07 inthis won't be a long-winded post; just a "quickie", and mostly meant for those still active:.
i find it odd that jehovah's witnesses don't find anything odd about how 'new light' is distributed.
i mean - if this new light comes from jehovah god himself, the creator of the universe and everything in it, wouldn't it be fair to say that it would happen more like in this story:.
-
DJPoetech
Missing Link: Glad your wife is coming aboard. I am still praying that my wife will see the light... The right light.
-
23
Leaving the Mormons stories can help Witnesses
by Dogpatch inhttp://www.exmormon.org/whylft36.htm.
http://www.exmormon.org/whylft26.htm.
http://www.exmormon.org/whylft31.htm.
-
DJPoetech
Welcome Ihid...
Once "shunned" the "love switch" is flipped off.
Good night.
-
25
Is the "stump" related to Babylon the Great?
by DJPoetech inis the "stump" or "banded rootstock" of dan chap 4 related to babylon the great of our day?.
i know generally how the wtbts of course turns all prophetic scriptures to benefit themselves.
we all know where that gets us.. has anyone done or heard any research on the matter?
-
DJPoetech
Is the "Stump" or "banded rootstock" of Dan chap 4 related to Babylon the Great of our day?
If it is how?
I know generally how the WTBTS of course turns all prophetic scriptures to benefit themselves. We all know where that gets us.
Has anyone done or heard any research on the matter? If so place here or make comments and observations of your own.
My own thoughts of the matter is that if the rootstock of Babylon is banded, the glory of her is gone but not the influence since the rootstock remains. My theory is that her influence has in a lot of ways been "underground" but is more pronounced because she has gained power but not in obvious ways. Thus the mysterious part of the prophecy. I'm not making any conclusive arguments just fishing for perspectives.
All are free to comment...
DJP
-
7
When you see the disgusting thing that causes desolation...
by Mickey mouse in...standing in a holy place.. i am sure this must have been discussed before but i can't find it in a search.
so if the disgusting thing is the un i think i can think of a time when it has stood in a place jw's consider "holy".
i never bought that the "holy place" was christendom when it has supposedly been denounced by god already.
-
DJPoetech
There were many things but that was clear to me in the scriptures. When I learned that, I "BOUNCED". (slang for left)