Posts by Vincent

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hi newbie to this great place

by freespirit67 in

sorry this has turned out longer than i thought.anyway i lived the life of a single mother fell away from the organisation,and eventually met a (worldly) guy who is the most loving guy i have ever met,my best friend,lover and soulmate.i was disfellowshipped 4 months ago because we live with each other and plan to get married in september,unacceptable to the society hence my disfellowshipping.it has broke my mum and dads heart and im so so sorry for this,i love them so much,but no longer want or believe in the jw beliefs.

i still believe in god but dont know where im bound as regards my faith,i really do want to have something.

apart from my mum and dad and the shunning arrangement im so happy,the happiest i have ever been in years,and my 2 youngest ones are happy as well..my eldest daughter is 16 and planning on getting baptised in july which is tearing me apart,she is so like me,but is being brainwashed by a certain crowd of witnesses,need i say anymore...my eldest son who is 18 isnt in the truth and feels the same way i do... anyway thanks for this forum and hope to hear from likeminded friends soon.

Vincent

Welcome to the Board FreeSpirit As you was a JW since age of 2 I hope u get through any problem that still lingers as this can happen on a cult exit. Live your life as a happy person.

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The problems with my JW family

by Ima Apostate in

this may be a rare thing on this board, don't know, because this is my first post, but i was raised jw and officially 'checked out', in my own mind, at 14 or so, because it just didn't make sense that god would destroy so many good people who are wholeheartedly trying their best to please him and worship him in truth.

i actually did not pray or give god a passing thought for 12 years or so because the god i had been raised to know was no one i wanted to worship.

but here in the past year something brought me around to him.

Vincent

Hey there Im glad you are proud to be out of the religion and dad is a very bad association, If I had a JW dad telling my kid that sort of thing, I would of lost my temper. Examples from a bible student who was me, I was beginning to preach like a JW to a lot of people and I did this in family and at work, I remember the JW, texting me on the phone welldone and etc. 3 Situation got me away from the JW religion 1, Emma Gough refusal for blood due to religion killed her and she is younger than me in early 20's, 2. My emotions were very sensitive which meant I cried a lot even being alone studying or with my friend who was my shoulder to cry on and last My friend saw how stressed I was and me taking her to the JW I belive made her nearly had a nervous breakdown she also said I dont think this religion is doing me good after hearing the news for Emma Gough, I just cried. Next day was time to end it all, if u see the old thread in feb called experience from bible student would tell you the rest. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/153035/1.ashx The old thread may mention about another friend who had anxiety attacks after he walked out, This made me lose my temper with the JW and I was ready to belt 1 that bothered me but luckly I didnt get bothered by them and I did do a lot of hate talks on the chatrooms regarding this religion basically I needed it out of my system. Had few arguments on you tube for calling them cults by a witness until I said a verse in the bible which shut her up. Im proud to be out of the Jehovah's Witness, but however I dont belive in the bible anymore after this

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Finding Faith

by Ima Apostate in

how many of you ex-jw kids were able to believe in mainstream christianity after leaving the borg?

within the last year, i have opened up to getting to know god again.

what's funny is that when i prayed for truth and to know god, i knew and had a real feeling in my heart that i was getting closer to something real, but there was still a voice going, "hey, it's me jehovah, and you have rejected me!".

Vincent

Welcome to the boards! I was a bible student for 7 months with the JW cult, you was right the JW organisation is more about controlling people. I go to a spirtualist church now as I no longer belive the bible when I left the JW organisation due to Emma Gough who died for refusing blood while giving birth to twins she is few years younger than me in her early 20's and I had a brain tumour removed when I heard this I went biszerk, I went through what you went through called a post cult trauma syndrome where u had a lot of voice of chrisitan history and from a lot of study on the JW organisation this takes a while to heal from what they twisted your brain round on. When I went in to church I was very nervous and same goes for the spirtualist church with the brainwashing about its all do with satan, I personally dont think seeing a spirtualist is satan's work. I left the cult in November 07 so I am still recovering. I didnt cry either but my friend Val did as she was an ex mormon. Some of the spiritualist were able to see what was wrong when they read me. To me God is in all of our hearts and does everything to take care of us

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An Elder Called Me Yesterday

by snowbird in

afternoon around 5 pm.. he just wanted me to know that he was thinking of and praying for me.. he said he was a bit down himself because of back problems and insensitive gossip about his problem.. i expressed my dismay over conditions in the organization and he agreed that something is terribly wrong.. i could tell he wanted to say more, but didn't want to rock the boat too much.. his call took me totally by surprise, and i the defeat and sadness in his voice was unmistakable.. he is one of the best.

i hope he gets out with his family intact.. the wt is going nowhere fast.. sylvia.

Vincent

After reading the post bit more, Im Glad the elder is good friends to u and he too gets stabbed in the back but I would be careful as he was getting stabbed in the back by the witnesses, they too may spy on him, this is 1 thing I found ridiculas about the WatchTower Organisation they seem to go against each other when it comes to disfellowshipping and etc and same goes for getting disfellowshipped for being raped I had heard this in real life as well and do speak to an ex Jehovahs Witnesses as she was helping me through the Stress. After reasearching on the Post Cult Trauma Syndrome as I and a lot of people never heard of and I belive I went through. I heard of this when I saw this on you tube, this clip was more on the mind control.

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An Elder Called Me Yesterday

by snowbird in

afternoon around 5 pm.. he just wanted me to know that he was thinking of and praying for me.. he said he was a bit down himself because of back problems and insensitive gossip about his problem.. i expressed my dismay over conditions in the organization and he agreed that something is terribly wrong.. i could tell he wanted to say more, but didn't want to rock the boat too much.. his call took me totally by surprise, and i the defeat and sadness in his voice was unmistakable.. he is one of the best.

i hope he gets out with his family intact.. the wt is going nowhere fast.. sylvia.

Vincent

If an elder called on my flat one 1 night like he did when I did leave the organisation, I wasnt nice to him as such in a polite way after doing a little talk, I had to kick him out this was b4 I was going very hateful and aggressive to the JW's. Future JW are banned from bothering me or I can swear at as I do plenty of that in my life them luckly I am not like I used to be towards them, its probley the body recovering from damnaged caused by them which was me going very violent towards the JW's. In the past I never hit a JW cos I was lucky not to have 1 bothering me again.

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An Interesting YouTube debate I had with a JW

by B_Deserter in

so most of you have probably seen my youtube video what you should know about jehovah's witnesses, which can be found here.

naturally, this draws quite a negative response from the jw community, but this particular person decided to send me a personal message.. you wanna talk smack about witnesses or anyone in general you better have your facts straight.

everything you said is taken almost enitrly out of context to our true practices.

Vincent

I had 1 session on you tube with a JW, she saw a comment left by me aka Vincent0ne stating they are cult and she was saying they are not cults as she likes them. So I said to her dont bad associations spoil useful habbits according to their bible, so what are u doing on the net, she never said another word. I know 1 person mesg me that armageddon is round the corner. I found some of the clips are acts, like Jehovahs Witness kills mormon, I think that was an act and the other called funny Jehovahs witnesses who pulls a gun out and he has femenine voice. During this time I was trying to find out the truth or exposed secrets of Jehovahs Witnesses at this time belived to be going through a post cult trauma syndrome so I was arrogent to all Jehovahs witnesses and I am very verbal arrogent to them now well I not intercepted them in the town except for one who I didnt reconise and said to her "Who are u" after she said hi to me, as I dont see ppl often so I forget very easily. I didnt want to get her disfellowshipped for associating with a non witness and had little talk and sent her off. I have asked her a question, I said to her was she born in to the religion, she said yes then said she left for bit and came back as she was unhappy for being away.

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Believer's how long will you allow this blasphemy?

by dawg in

as all of you know, i do not believe the bible's divine... but if i did, i find that much of what the society says is outright blasphemy.

notice this insert from the april 15th, wt... you can look it up for yourselves as i'm certain i'm not taking this out of context.

if you believe the bible is the word of god (i find it hard to believe that anyone can take it literal) but if you do, then what about the souls of your family still in?

Vincent

I lost faith in the bible while going through the Post Cult trauma Syndrome just for being a bible study student for 7 months. I basically dont belive it at all, All I think now is generally there is good and bad. Some places dont even belive in the satan. I been in to spirtualism since I was 11 but I dont do stupid things like playing with ouija board basically its up to people what they belive or not. I really do find it less stressful compared to all the work I had to do while was bible student. As with spiritualism and bible condemes it, we are all psychic in some sort of ways ie with true dreams and thoughts before it happens.

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Elders doing something they could be DF'ed for wile judging someone on JC?

by karter in

how can they clam to have the holy spirit?.

the jc that df'ed my brother one of the elders was screwing a married sister!.

i know of at least 2 cases of that.. one guy was po for many years turns out he had been screwing his own daughter since she was little.. .

Vincent

Hi 1/2 these Elders are sick perverts anyway. I heard a lot of child molesting or peadophillia amongst them lot even in the UK. I remember showing a paper article to an Elder when I was a bible study student. I said to him how can they get away with this. This elder said "dont belive the papers". Whatever the Elder said was a lot of BS also said they do a "committee Jury thing and see the outcomes with court" and they probley tell lies or pay loads of money to keep it quiet and probley gets away with it. Should be disfellowshipped if found guilty by court, castrate them and not disfellowship the victims. Vincent

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Experience from a bible study student

by Vincent in

i have left the jehovah's witnesses(jw) organisation after hearing of the death of emma gough who was 22 years old and refused blood while giving birth to twins.

as i thought of this i thought this would put me in a similar situation but with having a brain tumour operation like i did on 7/12/06

i studied the what the bible teaches book and got to chapter 13 until 28th oct 07 i left after hearing of the terror of that death.

Vincent

On the subject where my girlfriend said this religion was doing me no good, I did some research other day due to a conversation of the her attendence to the kingdom hall and the breakdown. I belived this religion had caused her to have to a near to a nervous breakdown where I called around very early in the morning to help her. She only attended the Kingdom Hall once which was for a Thecratic meeting after that she came home took valium due to stress. Near to a week this nervous breakdown occurred. I thought I mention this as this was troubling me Vincent

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Experience from a bible study student

by Vincent in

i have left the jehovah's witnesses(jw) organisation after hearing of the death of emma gough who was 22 years old and refused blood while giving birth to twins.

as i thought of this i thought this would put me in a similar situation but with having a brain tumour operation like i did on 7/12/06

i studied the what the bible teaches book and got to chapter 13 until 28th oct 07 i left after hearing of the terror of that death.

Vincent

Hi All I have left the Jehovah's Witnesses(JW) organisation after hearing of the death of Emma Gough who was 22 years old and refused blood while giving birth to twins. As I thought of this I thought this would put me in a similar situation but with having a brain tumour operation like I did on 7/12/06 I studied the what the bible teaches book and got to chapter 13 until 28th Oct 07 I left after hearing of the terror of that death. I attended the kingdom hall and book study for 8 months. When I was part of the JW's non baptised. Also I have been to a convention and the Assembly Hall. What got me to go to JW in the 1st place was through a friend who was looking for a girlfriend he been using churches to pick up girls but I only relised this after the meetings in June 07. I thought it was ok. As I got more seriously in to the JW organisation, I was littertually preaching to ppl at work and that friend who took me there in the 1st place. I was next answering up questions in the kingdom hall regardless of which I always did it even study the watchtower magazine and answering up from that. After the time goes by being with the JW, I had negative affects which I didnt notice too much until I started to go depressed on some conversation including where I was telling a mate off for talking about sex to me all the time. Arguements at work where chefs said to me "Uve been brainwashed" and took the mick out of it which lead me to shout at him in anger and shun him but I really went emotional. Telling my neices off for putting a bag over her head made go tearful. Then I was suffering with effects of loneliness and crying at the times during the day either studying or writing documents on the PC. Where they kept saying about the "bad associations spoils useful habbits" I thought I had to take that to action and did but luckly I did it that person and few people at work. I had a friend who I cared for as she had depression I met her on 10th Oct 07, she was telling me about her death of husband and read it in the article and I was very down and crying on her too, some JW nights made me just do that on her too. My friend and I had no clue the JW was causing it, I invited her to the hall one thursday when she got home she was stressed enough to take valium also when she smoked outside the hall, the witnesses were staring at her. She said "Vince I dont think this religion is doing u any good". She had a funny feeling that it was evil, when she did describe how I looked that was after leaving the religion, she said I looked Stressed, Black bags under the eyes and fed up and unhappy. Someone at work said the same to me. When I did hear this news I went funny night before I rang him as If I was scared. Then I text him in the morning from work and wrote "I am Texting u to say I would like end going to the meetings, as this is making me and val depressed as for hearing the news on blood transfusion I opping out as I dont want to happen to me" He wrote back "Should I suggest u keep ur study as normal and that is what faith is all about not giving in to every trial that came along. Pls get back" I wrote back "My brother was same age as that woman and he died through drugs and I hate it", he wrote back to me saying "your brother wasnt prepared to hail hitlar with salute but some may think its silly but that is what faith is all about pls get back", I said "I cant". I did feel very guity and scared after doing that he came to my flat unnounced I showed him the walls due to decorating and basically kicked him out. One night this is where I was very sucidal due to brain op, I was driven to smoking he came back to my flat, I fully explained why I dont want to come back and I did mention to him it is a cult but he denied it and said "If a JW from different congregation comes here can u tell them that u are not interested", I began to lose my temper. One saturday I had another JW showing me the Watchtower mag, I said to him "Which congregation are you from?" he said central, I said to him can you please dont knock on this door again, as all JW are banned from dealing with this flat again and again explained and I did really lose my temper. My other friend who was there but slower at the study than me had a nervous breakdown after I tried to get him out this was when I nearly became violent to a JW but had to control the anger. After that is when I had to see a counseller. Vincent