I SO agree!
I also try to remind myself that we will never be able to contol how others treat us, but we can control our reaction.
Take Care Vennie!
i know there are soo many new people on this board in the past year or so, and i haven't been posting a whole lot lately i've been busy with school and what not, but i did want to kind of give a bit of an update and hopefully some encouragement for those that are in the process of leaving the borg, and have left friends and family behind.
in the summer of 2000 my entire world shattered around me.
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I SO agree!
I also try to remind myself that we will never be able to contol how others treat us, but we can control our reaction.
Take Care Vennie!
since it appears that i won't be having any nieces or nephews in the near future, i have to resort to posting pictures of the new pets in the family.... .
here's my brother's new kitten (notice his "big sister" watching closely):.
isn't he adorable???
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im a huge cowboy fan but i dont think they will make it to the super bowl, damn sure would love to be wrong.
ok here is who i think as of right now pittsburgh stealers and san francisco 49ers and god i hate them both, well thats my pick how about you?
Goph,
You are quickly becomming one of my least favorite Viking fans
Anyways,
You all are just JEALOUS!!!
GREEN BAY ALL THE WAY!
the elders came over this morning as promised.
he called before to explain why so as not to show up under false pretenses.
he said yesterday when he called, he was with a service group so he said he was an "old friend" and wanted to come visit.
Princess,
You are one classy lady.
I would have been a little put off by someone showing up questioning me and my family. Im sure I would have been all defensive etc. You handled it very nicely.
Take care and enjoy the holidays with your family.
i thought that the best team in the nfl deserved their own thread.
actually, i am not a huge football fan.
i do not watch much sports at all.
Blondie,
What a low scoring game huh?
I thought the Packers were going to win with a field goal.
Oh well, a wins a win
today i spoke with a former jw i've been in touch with for several years and discovered what i think could be a major bombshell for the wts.
as we all know, shunning is the most powerful weapon the wt cult has over its members and for decades the wts has been able to get away with practicing it at their whim.
the us and other courts have permitted them to to use it, even though it destroys families and has ruined countless lives.
Focus,
Unfortionatly, I have to agree.
Hey, we can still dream though, cant we?
So cute
Merry Christmas Shera.
You are such a sweetheart!
i've taken note that the person that goes by the name "outlaw" continues to post daily.
yet, he hasn't entered the thread whose title bears his very own name.
yes, conveniently, outlaw skips past a thread that calls him to account for the lie he spoke about yadirf.
I guess you can add me to that list since I posted this in response to Yadirf on the winter thread.
Yadirf,
Im sure you are a very nice person and all, but as long as you continue to preach what the WTS preaches, you are lying because they are lying. They have been lying for years. I guess that makes you a liar, even though you may be doing it unintentionally.
I am definatly not saying I am any better than you because I also lied for them and now feel like crapp for doing so.
BTW,
You have been seriously insulting and degrading people as long as I have been here. If you honestly believe what has been said about you isnt true then maybe you should just explain yourself and leave it at that. There really is no need for name calling. Gheesh, I feel like Im talking to my 5 year old.
Anyway,
Have a Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!
Edited by - heaven on 22 December 2002 23:34:22
today i spoke with a former jw i've been in touch with for several years and discovered what i think could be a major bombshell for the wts.
as we all know, shunning is the most powerful weapon the wt cult has over its members and for decades the wts has been able to get away with practicing it at their whim.
the us and other courts have permitted them to to use it, even though it destroys families and has ruined countless lives.
Farkel,
Im thinking the WTS would probably add an "its up to your own conscience" shunning practice so as not to be as direct, avoid responsibility but still continue to make the witnessess feel guilty as hell if they associate with nonbelievers.
God that would be nice though. Im almost positive my grandfather would have accepted the blood transfusion that could have saved him if it werent for the liazion commitee and my family standing around him whispering about the disfellowshiping and shunning BS.
Thanks Farkel
Edited by - heaven on 22 December 2002 20:58:2
its just not supposed to be like this.
i just put my jw husband on a plane to san fran so he can spend the entire holiday week out there, get this, dog sitting his nonjw brothers shitzus while he goes to visit family for christmas.
i told him i was going to miss him...and he replied, well "i wont miss christmas".
Love,
Im SO sorry. To have you feel so much pain and for what, ya know?
The society knows what they are doing by seperating families during these times. They know that it isnt the actual holiday that would influence the JW, but the nonbelieving mate or family member who they love. Who do you trust more than anyone but your spouse or loved one? If the society can manage to seperate the two of you during a close family holiday such as Christmas, they are getting exactly what they want.
The WTS knows full well that when they seperate loved ones during times such as holidays, church weddings, church funerals etc. the one being avoided will probably feel hurt or betrayed. This is when friends and family need eachother the most. They want the nonbeliever to feel hurt and abandoned. The society hopes that you will be so hurt that you will be temped to become a JW again even if it is only to be with your loved one. If you choose not to, they hope that you begin to resent your loved one and begin distancing yourself from him so as not to continue influencing him in any way.
I cant even tell you that I know exactly what you are feeling right now. I married out of the faith so my husband encourages me to enjoy the holidays. Many of my JW family wont step foot in my house when the decorations are up but thats their choice. The more of these situations I hear of, the more I realize just how vindictive and manipulative the society really is.
Im so sorry you and your family are going through this right now. I hope you and your husbands love for eachother will overcome these times.