Yet what profit would it bring us
If our motives were not pure?"
Wow, that's heavy. I"m not sure if I've ever had a pure motive in my life. One completely free of self-interest. Having pure motives is a tall order for us humans.
do jws believe that one will be destroyed at armageddon for inward sins, such as lack of love, unforigiveness, doing a 'spiritual' work from wrong motives ('to be seen of men'), lusful thoughts?
sins of omission, like not caring for the poor, not praying for one's enemies or rulers, not thinking of others more often and more highly than yourself?.
are some sins higher up on the sinfulness list, in that only some are 'mortal' sins, and with others, you can still get by?.
Yet what profit would it bring us
If our motives were not pure?"
Wow, that's heavy. I"m not sure if I've ever had a pure motive in my life. One completely free of self-interest. Having pure motives is a tall order for us humans.
do jws believe that one will be destroyed at armageddon for inward sins, such as lack of love, unforigiveness, doing a 'spiritual' work from wrong motives ('to be seen of men'), lusful thoughts?
sins of omission, like not caring for the poor, not praying for one's enemies or rulers, not thinking of others more often and more highly than yourself?.
are some sins higher up on the sinfulness list, in that only some are 'mortal' sins, and with others, you can still get by?.
Do JWs believe that one will be destroyed at Armageddon for inward sins, such as lack of love, unforigiveness, doing a 'spiritual' work from wrong motives ('to be seen of men'), lusful thoughts? Sins of omission, like not caring for the poor, not praying for one's enemies or rulers, not thinking of others more often and more highly than yourself?
Are some sins higher up on the sinfulness list, in that only some are 'mortal' sins, and with others, you can still get by?
i know we've had this thread before - but thought i'd be the first on the new board !
some of my top picks as follows.
more to come.. 1. jaws.
Cawshun,
I concur with One Flew OVer the Cuckoo's Nest. It's so eerie, and really stays with you. DId you ever see the lady who played Nurse Ratchet on Deep Space Nine?
FOr people that like horror movies, i find nothing scarier than really BAD people. Like:
Misery
Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? (very old, but has Bette Davis. really worth seeing. very creepy)
ok, so here's a little summary.
i have suffered from depression for quite a while, at varying degrees.
several months ago, i made the decision to stop attending meetings (check out my first posts for the reasons).
I just had to ask about this comment WTWizard made on this thread: "You will be afraid of the Christmas decorations" I actually THOUGHT i was noticing this, with a JW friend of the fam, that comes over a lot. But i put it out of my mind, because i thought, no , that can't be true. I know they don't celebrate Christmas, but i just can't believe he doesn't want to be in the most decorated room with the tree. I'm just imagining that......
right now i am a little pissed off.
for the second year out of 3 i have sent some one something and spent more than was needed to because i care about x jws.
last year i had a very happy recipient and that made me happy!
Some people may prefer to send a written thank you note, which will obviously take longer to get there, than a PM. :)
i realize not everyone here was sexually abused while they were children in the wts.
but many of us were victims.
but many more of us were victims of other kinds of abuse; physical, emotional and definitely spiritual abuse.
Ode To JWD, from an outsider:
Due to family friends I have come to know and love, I began to research Jehovahs Witnesses. While researching on the internet, i stumbled across JWD. I was already quite familiar with the "unique" doctrines, but I didn't have a clue about the practices that can be so devastating to families, and one's autonomy and mental/spiritual health. IT is perplexing to me that these issues have not received more publicity, and I've already explored some local avenues/opportunities for getting this info more exposure.
I have read many threads and many bios, and have felt anger and sadness. Not being an exJW, I almost felt like I shouldn't be here, like I was crashing someone's support group. But I always felt welcome, and even enjoyed a few PMs with some neat people. This is such a unique group (born-ins, UBMs, faders, atheists, agnostics, BACs, etc), but all share that experience of being "touched by the tentacles of the Watchtower" as KoolAidman puts it.
I'm amazed at the level of intelligence displayed here. You all deserve a book deal! Thanks for sharing; it has definitely illumined me, and moved me!
Love, auntbee
The list of rules! I have actually thought it would be interesting to pass that out to anyone who takes some of their literature, like when they're out at the tables.
Auntbee
i mean really like them?.
4 of my 6 g'kids are now teenagers.
i can't stand them.. an old lady once told me that you've got to hate them (teenagers) before you can really love them.. i think she was on to something.. sylvia.
I love that question, as I'm on my fifth one! LOL! My answer is................no. Love them? yes, always. Like them is a different story. I dont' think they like me either, but that's ok.
I agree with Caliber, though, that thankfully they do grow out of it. I find that going to college/moving out works wonders for their maturity and our relationship.
auntbee
luke 10:5.
"when you enter a house, first say, 'peace to this house.'.
do you recall ever getting this greeting from a jehovah's witness?
No money, purse or extra sandals either! And don't stop to gab with anyone on the way. (previous verse: Carry neither money bag, knapsack, nor sandals; and greet no one along the road.)
Although I am reminded of the time that a pair of JW ladies a few years ago did literally shake the dust off their feet after my visit with them! It was kind of startling!
just gotta vent here.
we're very close to a jw senior at my dau's hs.
he hangs out here all the time.
Just gotta vent here. We're very close to a JW senior at my dau's HS. He hangs out here ALL the time. THey are just friends. THeir latest thing together has been watching all the old DIsney videos. LOL. THe guy is adorable, and i've gotten fairly close to him as well. -- The mom came knocking at our door a few months ago. I didn't know if she knew me or not, but i invited her and her associate back, and we had an 'interesting' long conversation. (I had been reading JWD for months, as well as other sources.) She just now found out i was the mom, and it's been my house he's been at all the time. Now suddenly, after months of him hanging here so much, she says he can't,accuses him of having a fling with my daughter (horrors!!) , etc. grrrr. They are REALLY just watching videos and talking!!!!!!!!! I can't imagine having a son who is such a good guy , smart, etc, and treating him that way!! :( It makes me wonder if at some point, this strategy will backfire big time, and he'll just give up and give her something to really worry about!! SHeesh!!!!!!!!!!!!