Hey Moe,
We're in the same boat. When did you buy your ticket?
HCM
HoChiMin
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This is who really I am
by MrMoe ini have had several people on this board request that i show the softer side of who i am as a person -- as well as share my feelings in regards to the divorce my husband and i are about to go through.
i have used the forum (past tense) as an outlet for stress.
i think i met my husband for a reason.
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Holy S*** visit tomorrow from the PO
by freeman inif you folks recall, a while back i went ballistic when my boys told me they were going to now shun both their newly dis-fellowshipped friends because that is what the society said is the loving thing to do.
sick!
anyway, i informed the father of the two boys, an elder, that my younger unbaptized son (12) will no longer be studying or going to the meetings because i dont want him to participate in or have his young mind twisted by such unscriptural teachings.
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HoChiMin
freeman,
mommy / Wendy is right, they will try to sway your wife and children against you. You will be labeled as "detrimental to their spiritual well being" and if she decides to leave you they will back her up. If the po comes alone, he may just want to talk, watch what you say with anyone else in the room, even you family. Any statements made will be used against you, to throw you out of the congregation, and they will use coercion on your family to testify against you.
If on the other hand you trust your family, wife in particular, to support you instead of the WT than by all means have at them. In any event, good luck in your endeavors.
HCM
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MAJOR REQUEST ON THE WTS/UN SCANDAL
by hawkaw inhello all.. i was hoping a few of you would do me a favour.
a local news editor has asked me a question.
he has asked why is this un/wts story important to the local community?.
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HoChiMin
Hawkaw,
The WT has vilified the UN for at least a century, taught me it was disgusting, a beast, a tool of Satan and so on. They persuaded me to give my thought process over to them (WT) because they claimed to speak for god and I became opposed to supporting the country I live in due to the teachings of the WT. I would have allowed my child to die if blood was needed to save a life. The WT teaches ,and many of the members are happy that, 6 billion inhabitants of the planet will die a death as horrible or worse than those on 9-11-2001 at the hands of their god, if one does not listen to a door to door sermon.
This is only a small part of why it is important to let any and all still in or considering joining the WT about the current UN/WT issue. Proof that they lie and cover over important information to keep control over their members.
HCM
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JW's - Do You Willingly Obey The Slave?
by TR in.
the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
edmund burke
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HoChiMin
TR,
I agree the framework is in place for such orders to be carried out by a few loyal dubs. Just like the present terrorists, not all would go so far, but it only takes a few doesn't it? The mind shut down of normal family relationships that will go on for the rest of some lives because the WT says so is one good example. Most likely they ,WT, would never resort to violence, but a martyrs death because of preventing or refusing blood goes a long way for their cause.
HCM
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Kmart Card Table Time..Same as Door to Door?
by Andee inquestion for the panel, please?.
at my local kmart there is always a jw table set up.
i dont get close enough to actually see what literature is set on the table but close enough to view the free bible study sign prominently displayed in the midst of books, etc.. generally, this card table is manned by two or three young women.
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HoChiMin
Andee,
>"At my local Kmart there is always a JW table set up. I don't get close enough to actually see what literature is set on the table but close enough to view the "Free Bible Study" sign prominently displayed in the midst of books, etc.<"
They may not be dubs if they are in jeans. Other religions will offer bible studies also. Check out the literature and if they are dubs, have some fun.
HCM
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New Technology New Laws (Bible?)
by D wiltshire innew technology new laws (bible?).
with the rather recent internet technology comes a bunch of new moral issues and new laws which need to be made to govern its use.. new laws governing the internet use would not make sense, if written 100 years ago in the past.. i think this nicely illustrates the fact that, the more we learn the more some things change.
men are writing more and more laws as new issues come up, old issues also are re-examined and some old laws are discarded and more comprehensive new ones replace them.. the bibles 2 eye witnesses for a conviction was written, before photography, video, tape-recorders, or positive identification by fingerprints existed.
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HoChiMin
D wiltshire,
Good points, can you picture a crime lab in every K hall?
Another good reason against organized religion having anything to do with life or death judgments.
HCM
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Does God condone slavery?
by crownboy inthe september 8th, 2001 awake aimed to answer this question.
to say the least, this is a topic of great controversy and embarrassment for christains.. essentially, the awake said that god is unequivocally opposed to oppresive forms of slavery (as if any type of slavery is not considered oppresive to the one being enslaved) and that he demonstrated his opposition to such slavery by freeing the isrealites from the oppresive eyptians (but of course leaving slaves under more despotic conditions to fend for themselves).. they acknowledged that god allowed the isrealites to own slaves, but not opression of them (an example given was that the isrealites could take women as slaves, but could only have sex with them if they made them their wives.
in the "opressive" forms the women would have sex with their masters without the benefit of marriage and only for the masters sexual gratification.
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HoChiMin
Crownboy,
Of course god condones slavery! Just look at Bethal workers.
HCM
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The World Didn't End
by metatron ini ran into an old jw friend who remarked about the world trade.
tragedy, "we were hoping it was armageddon".. well, it wasn't -- and isn't.
the world economic system didn't collapse.
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HoChiMin
metatron,
The WT would love to see everyone die, suffer for a short time first so they could gloat, that's the simple facts.
HCM
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"Brothers at NY Ground Zero"
by HoChiMin ina circuit overseer, jarome sexton, ma circuit #4 is telling the congregations "the brothers were at ground zero", reading scriptures to firefighters and military personal and they would cry as they heard the words.
"as people ran across the bridge what did they see ' read gods word daily' ".
the dam doors were locked!
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HoChiMin
Thank you Fred. That's the best compliment I've gotten all day.
HCM
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"Brothers at NY Ground Zero"
by HoChiMin ina circuit overseer, jarome sexton, ma circuit #4 is telling the congregations "the brothers were at ground zero", reading scriptures to firefighters and military personal and they would cry as they heard the words.
"as people ran across the bridge what did they see ' read gods word daily' ".
the dam doors were locked!
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HoChiMin
A circuit overseer, Jarome Sexton, MA circuit #4 is telling the congregations "the brothers were at ground zero", reading scriptures to firefighters and military personal and they would cry as they heard the words. "As people ran across the bridge what did they see ' Read Gods Word Daily' ". So what! The dam doors were locked!
I thought it was already established no non rescue personal were allowed on site at ground zero.
Under those conditions you could tell the toughest person on the planet a frog had been run over in Wisconsin, and a normal response would be to get emotional.I'm in NY often and ask, out of curiosity, to many different people, "what is that building with the clock on top?"( pointing to the WT factory bldg.) Most people have simple answers and find it insignificant in their daily routine.
I wonder if this c.o. , being a representative of the WT is speaking on his own or from outlines from the WT? Every JW that hears it will believe it because this man, a "c.o." has spoken it, any thing else is apostate.
The propaganda machine appears to be in high gear cranking out salve stories for the r&f, and what else would you expect from the great "Whore" riding on the "Beast".
HCM