I do not think they should be banned. I do think like Dakota that certain disclosures should be required.
Posts by jack2
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IF YOU COULD HAVE JW'S OUTLAWED, WOULD YOU?
by minimus insince so many are vehemently opposed to jehovah's witnesses, if it was in your power, would you simply outlaw the witnesses?
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I miss you guys...
by MrMoe inso many new people... but it seems so many people are gone and the threads whiz by so fast i can't keep track.
mostly tho, i am jsut over the dubs.
but lately, i find myself missing the old board, the way things were.
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jack2
Amanda, when you do not post for awhile, I for one do notice. And I do give a "rat's azzzz", Fortunately, we are hooked up e-mail and IM wise, so even when you are not posting, we can keep in touch.
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When brothers don't reach out
by Sadie5 inall this talk about privileges being taken away, such as microphone duty, got me to thinking about how some brothers are viewed who aren't reaching out.. my husband would have fallen in this category.
i got involved with the jws first and looking back i think he just followed along to keep peace in our marriage.
he (gladly) followed me out too.. when we were jws, it wasn't a priority to him to become a ms or elder.
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jack2
This is an excellent thread, and having been through the whole process - nobody, MS, elder, and back to nobody, I can relate to the initial post and replies totally.
Sadie, good post!
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Are JW's only in it for the New System?
by In_between_days inif the new world hope no longer existed, would everyone leave?
would some stay?
what do you think the reaction of the dubs would be if the new light was no armaggedon and no "new system"?
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jack2
Luke 10:25 (NWT): "Now, look! A certain man, versed in the Law, rose up, to test him out, and said, "Teacher, by doing what shall I inherit everlasting life?"
Matthew 19:27 : "Then Peter said to him in reply: Look! We have left all things and followed you; what actually well there be for us?".
Acts 16:30 : And he brought them outside and said "Sirs, what must I do to get saved?"
I think these verses show that religious people have always been interested in the reward that they might receive, and it's not something only jws are concerned about.
In regard to the original question, yes, I think many jws are in it mainly for the reward. I think that, as humans, we often are in whatever endeavor we involve ourselves in because we seek some remuneration. With regard to being a jw, there are so many sacrifices a person is expected to make, no wonder he/she expects something in return. Note Peter's question above - didn't he kind of 'expect' something in return? In a way, I guess it's selfish to want a reward, and yet, it seems part of the human experience, in some cases, at least to want one.
I'm not necessarily defending the 'expectation' of a reward, but, it seems to me that the scriptures above indicate that humans seem to be interested in some reward form God, and whether that's entirely a selfish thing or not, I really don't know.
Edited by - jack2 on 29 September 2002 0:1:13
Edited by - jack2 on 29 September 2002 0:2:25
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question on friendship
by Vivamus insomeone just recently told me his opinion on friendship.
and now i am wondering what your thoughts are.
what defines friendship?.
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jack2
Very good thread Viv and this one gets me thinking - and the comments have been good too.
I think that for me, friendships exist with others to varying degrees - some are 'close' friends, some are 'good' friends (the two may be synonymous) then there are people I consider to be friends, but that I really don't do much with socially - yet I still veiw them as friends. And as Karen said, there are 'acquaintances' that we all have, and of course, the degree of closeness needed to make them a friend is just not quite there but there can be potential for a friendship in some cases, though often such people simply remain acquaintances for whatever reason.
I have some very good 'online' friendships too. Is an online friend a friend of a different sort? Is the word "online" implying some sort of limit on the degree or extent of the friendship? I've thought about this a lot, and I don't really know the answer, but I have some people that I consider true friends that I have only met online, and I have spoken by phone with a couple of them and that helps solidify the friendship too. They've helped me a lot and have been there for me and I try to be there for them in whatever way I can. I've had a couple of such friendships that have lasted almost three years now, and are still growing and going strong. To me, they are true friendships, limited only by the distance between us physically. I have some newer online friendships too that have been very rewarding and enjoyable.
Sometimes we create (perhaps out of some necessity) certain friendship categories, i.e, school friends, work friends, jw friends, online friends, etc. But to me, ultimately, a friend is a person who is trusting, caring, loyal, fun, and forgiving, among many other things.
Edited by - jack2 on 27 September 2002 9:33:0
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Hey, my husband posted!!
by Mulan inwatch for posts by "bigred".
we were talking about one of the threads today, and he said he would like to add a comment, so he registered and wrote a good one.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37429&page=2&site=3edited by - mulan on 26 september 2002 19:21:4.
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jack2
Cool....hey, my wife looked at this site for the first time yesterday - it was strictly for laughs on the 'Awake covers you won't see thread' but hey, it's a start.
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Why Dinosaurs Vanished
by metatron inwhy did dinosaurs vanish?.
they were overweight.. http://frederic.malmartel.free.fr/fin_des_dinosaures/eedinosaures1.htm.
metatron
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LDH, I totally buy into your theory!!
It clearly explains why some species did survive the dino-demise of the late Cretaceous period (a/k/a the dino "time of the end" or "last days").
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Totally happy in your marriage?
by Lost Diamond inhow many of you are totally, incredibly happy in your marriage?
how many of you feel that your spouse is your absolute soul mate and you couldn't even imagine your being married somebody else?
talking with the women at work, i'm surprised at how many are not totally happy.
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jack2
The more I read this thread, the more it warms my heart.....and makes me want to gag at the same time.
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[Silly] Awake! magazines you'll never see
by Ephanyminitas inyou see, this is what happens when i stay up too late.
that third one is an actual undoctored photo.
his eyes just look like that.
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jack2
This was the tread that got my family their first look at jwd, and boy, did we have a laugh!
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NEW Barbara Anderson News Story!
by UnDisfellowshipped inthursday september 26, 2002 6:40 am .
tullahoma, tenn. (ap) - joe and barbara anderson have been abandoned by their peers.
their son won't talk to them, and won't let them see their 3-year-old grandson.
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jack2
Thank you for posting this Undisfellowshipped, and good post by hawkhaw too....ChristianObserver, good points made too.
I discussed this with a Catholic guy that I work with, and he felt it was certainly wrong for victims and their advocates to be disfellowshipped. We discussed the fact that, though the Catholic Church has also done wrong in the area of abuse, at least they do not excommunicate those who were victimized or who speak out.