Who knows if she is a big flirt and desperate to get married... lol things could happen... happened to my mom and me. My mom got remarried to a "worldly person" and I fell in love with a "worldly person" and got DFed. I did it for him over the control of my religion! He was amazing to me at the time.
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All right, do JW's REALLY do not marry outside of their faith?
by dgp ini've been a lurker in this site for some time.
i am not a jehovah's witness, but was here because i wanted to know more about the organization, since i am in love with a jw woman.
she recently rejected me, on the grounds that "she would not risk her relationship with jehovah for someone who would die in (snap fingers)".
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Another Trinity Thread
by AwSnap incan you clarify something for me please?
the jw's teach that most (to them, that means all) religions teach the trinity as being that god almighty, jesus, and the holy spirit are literally one, meaning the exact same 'person', none higher than the other, inseparable, the exact same thing.
they mainly use catholics and baptists, in my experience.
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Butterflyleia85
Still doesn't make sense jonathan dough!
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As A JW Did You Care About Old JW History, Old Light & Flip Flops?
by minimus ini used to look at the old stuff as info that the witnesses were progressively understanding.
i didn't hold it against the witnesses if they changed understandings because after all the 'light was getting brighter and brighter".. as time went on, it did start effecting me.
there were too many things i'd let slide by when i was younger that i just couldn't ignore any longer.
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Butterflyleia85
Research will be the death of the Organization.
That's why it's banned!!! Circuit Assembly This Past Weekend "Safeguard Your Spirituality"tryintoexit's post on was pretty interesting!
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"The Lost Symbol" mentions Jehovah and the end being in 2012
by WuzLovesDubs ini wonder what the wtss reaction will be to this book.
its a great read.
but all the hoo ha about 2012 lately, and the movie coming out next month and now this book about the masons mentioning jehovah... lots of bible reference and intrigue and food for thought in it.. .
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Butterflyleia85
I want to see the new movie "2012" it sounds interesting!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyCCd8MCcZY
I just watched an eposide on tv about "2012" http://www.history.com/video.do?name=armageddon&bcpid=3887230001&bclid=5983807001&bctid=6085856001
last wk with my fiance it was interesting.
I think JW will disregard it until the GB make a comment on it in the Watchtower or KM.
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Mr. & Mrs. Flipper - 3 year Anniversary thanks to E-Harmony
by flipper inthis goes out to my lovely wife !
it's been a great 3 years babe.
lookin' forward to many more !
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Butterflyleia85
Yay!!! Happy Anniversary to you both!! Thanks so much for your guy's kindness! Wish I could send a gift, I guess this will do...
P. S. I have two dogs and my fiance has birds and three cats.... We make it work and love each other to death!! Yeah that's also why we are moving into a two story home... need the space! Animal fights all the time! lol Reminds me of an episode of Hecktor, Sylvester, and Tweety Bird lol
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I'm ticked... Paradise earth is what I want!!
by Butterflyleia85 inok ok so i'm still doing research and i'm not giving up on this beleif of paradise earth!
but after doing some studying and after seeing the mistakes jw has made.
i now stubbled.... the watchtower also does not tell new converts that although they closed the door to heaven in 1935 they had closed the door to heaven once before in 1881. they were wrong in 1881 are they wrong again now?
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Butterflyleia85
Ok ok so I'm still doing research and I'm not giving up on this beleif of Paradise earth! But after doing some studying and after seeing the mistakes JW has made. I now stubbled...
The Watchtower also does not tell new converts that although they closed the door to heaven in 1935 they had closed the door to heaven once before in 1881. They were wrong in 1881 are they wrong again now? The question we are compelled to ask is, why did Jesus lash out at those who shut up heaven to the common man? "But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in." Matthew 23:13. Next week we will be discussing whether one goes to heaven in the flesh. (http://www.jwinfoline.com/Documents/Heaven/how_has_wt_made_earth_more_desirable.htm)
Will the earth exist forever? Of course this is impossible. It is an undisputed scientific fact that the earth will end, agreeing with the Bible that "like a garment the earth itself will wear out". Consider the following indications that the earth was not designed to last forever.
Just as wood turns to energy and disintegrates in a fire, over time the sun will be consumed of all matter. Once the hydrogen at its core has all converted into helium the sun will expand into a red giant and envelop the earth. As the helium runs out the sun will then contract into a white dwarf.
Additionally, the earth's core temperature is cooling. The time will come when this leads to the magnetic fields ceasing and the earth loosing its atmosphere. This is what happened to Mars, and will lead to the earth no longer being able to support life. Even the moon was not designed to remain forever orbiting the earth. Currently the moon moves a further 3.82cm away from the earth each year. For the earth to remain forever, Jehovah would be required to rewrite the universal laws he instigated at creation.
The Fundamentalist answer to this is that 'with God all things are possible'. If God says the earth will stay forever, he will make sure it does. God has the power to refuel the sun or reheat the earth's core. Though this is possible, this sort of argument allows anyone to believe anything. This view also contradicts one of the apparent proofs for a God, the structured order in the universe. If the universe is mathematically perfect as Jehovah's Witnesses state, God is going against his order of things to change the destiny of the sun. In fact, if with God all things really are possible, why did he create things in such a way that the sun is dieing. Why not just create the universe in such a way as to last forever.
The Bible agrees with science when it states at Isaiah 51:6 that "like a garment the earth itself will wear out". We are told God will create a new earth. The Bible does not clarify God's plan for this new earth so speculation is pointless.
Nature itself indicates that earthly life is not to be immortal. All living animals and vegetation die. Well before the sin of Adam God had put into creation, both living and inanimate, the tendency to decay. (http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/earth-forever.php )Whatever I'm just trying to rap my mind around this....
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Does the Watchtower place itself above Jesus?
by sacolton in"the world is full of bibles, which book contains the commandments of god.
why, then, do the people not know which way to go?
because they do not also have the teaching or law of the mother, which is light.
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Butterflyleia85
OMG to funny!!! (eek!!)
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How Do We Help JWs Who Come To This Site?
by minimus inwhen a witness checks this site out, they could think it's a jehovah's witness friendly site.
the fact is this site is for anyone interested in jehovah's witness things, whether they are still witnesses or once were or just want to know about witness life.. what positive ways can we help a witness on this site?.
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Butterflyleia85
Personally I dont think I would have stayed on this site if it wasn't for Ynot and BlueCanary... They were the first to give me good advice I thought. Isaacautin was nice and others that incouraged research. Not being offending or sounding like an "apostate" (anyone that sounded like they were against JW). Now my eyes are opened and yelp WasAnElder Once was right I don't really want to go back!
I tried to share it with my DF friends and my family. They deleted it. So I guess it only me that gets this site. I also tried to get my fiance involved and he don't want anything to do with it really. But he has lighted up alot and now I can talk to him. He was raised as Church of God and doesnt go to church. But once in awhile will glance over and see me reading this stuff and finds it very interesting. Alot of you make good points!!
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Butterflyleia85
((hugs))
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Circuit Assembly This Past Weekend "Safeguard Your Spirituality" -Everyone Please Enter-
by tryingtoexit inso we had our circuit assembly this past weekend, and it was the first one in my life that i told my wife i would not be attending.
we had a brief conversation on why, and she said well just go to this last one with me, and then when we can discuss what we learn and compare it to why you've been expressing your "new" feelings towards the wts.. i love my wife, and as much as i thought i was gonna hate it i decided to go.
now that i no longer want to be a jehovah's witness it really didnt bother me that nobody hardly talked to me despite me living in this same area for 4 1/2 years, everybody views me as spiritually weak because i dont go out in service, rarely attend meetings, dont comment, lesson is never underlined, so the "friends" never interact with me anyway and i'm use to it, actually that's the way i prefer it.
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Butterflyleia85
Wow good discussion on here!