Posts by JCanon

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Was Charles T. Russell A Mason And Believer In The Occult?

i've been reading in this forum that charles t. was a mason up until his death, and that he was buried as a mummy.

i also heard that the guy who wrote the new world translation was in court at one point, and was proved a fraud because he couldn't read greek, much less transalate it.

does anyone have any proof of all this?

JCanon

This is an interesting topic, but you must realize that the Masons didn't die out when Russell died, they are still alot of them alive and well and claiming Russell was not a Mason.

For instance, AF. He would have us to believe that Russell included the winged disk on the cover of the publications of a religious magazine and though acutely familiar with Masons, didn't know what that symbol represented when every Freemason would? Same goes with the crown and cross on the Watchtower!

Then after his death he Watchtower Society buries him under a pyramid with a seeing eye, the SAME symbol on the dollar bill which AF implies is just for decoration if it is not linked with Freemasonry?

Pa-leeeze!. AF is a brilliant man and thus would not be so naieve as to believe every single thing on anything like a dollar bill would have critical significance. The significance to the emblem is an attestation to the money and power Freemasons have, and thus, the seeing eye and the pyramid are definitely freemasonry symbolisms also.

BUT.......

There is a technicality here. Freemasons are just a branch of many occult groups that know and are aware of the "mysteries". These groups operate as "secret societies" and have a common origin but may not necessarily be all the same organization.

Biblically speaking, the "weeds" are a symbol of a form of Freemasony connected with the "Eleusinian" mysteries since it was believed that a fungus infecting wheat caused a psychedelic hallucination that allowed the mysteries to evolve, etc. Thus the seeding of God's organization with "weeds" in the illustration of the wheat asnd weeds could represent it's being infiltrated by a form of the mysteries "secret societies", related to Freemasons but not directly.

What my take on it is, and based upon a quote (which I don't have now) that Russell made is that he spoke of these "secret societies" and basically was inviting them into the Watchtower Organization as a safe place to operate. That explains his putting the "cultic" symbolims of the the cross and crown from the Knights of Templar and the winged disc of Osiris more associated with "British Israelism" than Freemasonry.

So was Russell a "Freemason"? Maybe not technically. Was he into secret societies and did he create a special one among the witnesses. YES!

A casual comparison of what the witness occult secret society is into would be the "Tower Goddess" the "Goddess of Fortresses". Some of their understanding and beliefs about the mysteries would be found in a book they used to publish by Alexander Hyslop called "The Two Babylons".

At any rate, those into the mysteries would recognize these mystic symbolisms so they are not "innocent" as AF would have us all believe? What, Russell couldn't find any original symboms or anything else, even like a simple cross of Christendom he had to use a pagan symbol on Christian literature. C'mon A.F. Even you don't believe that. SOMETHING is wrong here. Even if it is not specifically the current Chapter of Freemasonry.

One interesting thing you can look into that should more than alert you to the mystical nature of this, is the occult "subliminal art" that the WTS graduated to after the Cross and Crown were removed and the winged disc.

This relates to the abdominal "7th Volume" put out by Rutherford wherein an interpretation was made of the pagan book of "Song of Solomon" a book that pagans know clearly is pagan and relates to the Tower Goddess. Thus the symbolisms on the early Watchtower reflect the reference in Song of Solomon on how to represent this goddes in architure, particularly the breasts of the goddess being like towers. I'll look this up and then elaborate. But the "wall" and the tower are connected with the goddess and that is the symbolism used on the Watchtower cover. In addition, the older Watchtowers showed a white mountain with a stream coming from it and the waters of life and knowledge are thought to come from the breast of the goddess which is part of the mysteries of this goddes since she is the goddess of knowledge, etc.

So, while the cultic society practiced by those in the WTS might not be frank "Freemasonry" it's still a haven for those who are in the mysteries or who use the mysteries to operate their own organization. So I would call Russell a Freemason but definitely a follower of the mysteries and thus just as bad as being a Freemason. Only the WTS secret cultic society seems to be more into the "Tower Goddess" and "Goddess of Fortresses" mysteries than what the Freemasons are into.

Finally, and interestingly enough, the Freemasons and the secret societies have been connected with Jews and Hitler, of all people, started to persecute the witnesses BECAUSE of this alleged Jewish connection with the secret socities the Germans believed the Jews were involved with, i.e. their belief that the Jews were planning to undermind Aryan Western Culture and take over the world by world finance and all that. And this can't be denied now since Rutherford's own letter back to Hitler said as much, that Britian and New York were controlled by the Jewish bankers. So Rutherford definitely understood the secret societies and Freemasonry references going on and the witnesses are right in the middle of it!

So whether it's their Tower Goddess new secret cult, or Russell being buried under his mysterious circumstances with Freemasonry symbolism or the Nazis linking JWs with secret societies of the Jews...they will not be able to shake the connection, no matter how many specific "details" can be denied.

So was Rusell a "Freemason" proper? Maybe not. Was he into the occult and secret societies? Absolutely!

Look up information on the "Tower Goddess" for some interesting comparisons....

The fact that the WTS would be infiltrated by "weeds" (Freemasonry-like secret societies associated with the "mysteries") was Biblically prophesied. This strong infiltration fits the context of Revelation saying: "Get out of her MY PEOPLE"...meaning Jehovah's witnesses involved with Freemasonry were to "get out of her", suggesting that it must be quite common for them to have been involved with "Babylon the Great" which is connected with the "Illuminati" and secret socities linked with the UN.

Anyway, like I said, whenver an article like this comes up, I just laugh because I know some current Freemason will have to try to dismiss suspicion away from Russell's connection with the "Fremasons" and the occult, when it is so very apparent that he can't be disconnected if he was buried with a seeing-eye pyramid on his grave.

"Freemasons" are alive and well and particularly in these X-JW news groups.

JCanon

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Troublesome Trinity Verses Part 3

by hooberus in

i will be posting some more "troublesome trinity" verses shortly.

i am trying to concentrate on the verses used by non-trinitarians to "disprove" the trinity.

"mighty god" is jehovah in isaiah 10:21, jeremiah 32:18 etc.

JCanon

Again why doesn't the Bible use the Greek word for "first created"
(protoktizo), proto meaning first and ktizo meaning created, instead of
firstborn (prototokos) which seems to refer to a position of pre-eminence
rather than the order of birth?

Sorry, but you can only say this is isolation of the reference of Jesus being called "son". So whether he is first created or first born is not critical. Since the firstborn son, though, because of Jesus,was given special recognition, "firstborn" became LATER a reference to preeminence...not the other way around.

Had "first-created" been a reference to Jesus where the Bible would elsewhere not consider him the "son" of the "Father" then perhaps you could make that argument that it could not be a reference to his being the first of creation chronologically. But since that's not the case your emphasis is misplaced here.

The Bible makes many references to Jesus, many... Some might be misunderstood or easily taken out of context. But the vast majority of them are quite clear, that being clearly showing us the relationship between these two beings quite fundamentally as "Father" and "son". Any anxious relapse to misfocus on this will simply be a gross error.

Father....son

Father...first born son/first-created son...

Expand from here and you can't go wrong. Starting from somewhere else?

.....no guarantees.

JCanon

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Is the WTS slowly turning into a mainstream religion?

by obiwan in

i took this off of xjw_b12's thread.

(hope you don't mind).

"when considering whether to include a pinata at a social gathering, christians should be sensitive to the consciences of others.

JCanon

It doesn't matter what they are "turning into"...apparently they have turned away from truth and for that will be thrown into the lake of fire as the "false prophet" (Revelation) right along with Christendom. In Revelation, coming out of the earth (meaning connected with pure worship) is the Lamb-Dragon beast representing the WTS leadership which has turned apostate, looking like a lamb but speaking like a dragon. The 666-Beast counterpart is Christendom, the 666 representing their focus on the false trinity doctrine. This bease comes out of the sea, meaning out of all the confused and Biblically weak Biblical doctrines of Christendom.

Further, both are destroyed "while still alive". We can thus only speculate that some national mandate will occur that will dismantle all public religion, or at least as we know it now. That or this is reference they will be up and running when Armageddon strikes..... (check Revelation).

JCanon

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Scientists back Biblical tunnel

by Gerard in

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3098018.stm

scientists back biblical tunnel.

by richard black .

JCanon

Scholars say it is a useful find because it sets an absolute date for a Biblical event, rather than having to rely on interpretations and calculations.

Interesting post, but it is not as specific as astronomical dating which gives you dating accurate to the very year. Two astronomical texts, the VAT4956 and the Assyrian eponym list eclipse, thus require more specific dating, even if more than one date is assigned. Thus if you use the 511BCE dating in the VAT4956 for year 37 of Nebuchadnezzar and redate the eponym eclipse back from 763BCE to 709BCE, then the beginning of Hezekiah's reign would be around 665BCE specifically. So it's not as if we can't figure out the exact date of this event via what information we have. I wouldn't consider "around 700 BCE" as being a true contradiction in this case.

But thanks for the post. Basically the dating prior to the Neo-Babylonian period is consistent Biblical with secular history except for 54 years, the difference between the 763BCE eclipse and the 709BCE eclipse. Thus the first of Hezekiah by the secular dating woudl be around 719BCE, which is close to the alleged radiodating, though they suggest the radiodating was "much earlier"? It would thus be interesting if the radiodating was about 50 years earlier which would mean it was fairly accurate considering that would be closer to the precise date.

If you know precisely what year the tunnel was built, then you can caluate the precise year the tunnel was dug if you begin the rule of Hezekiah around 665BCE. Some of this dating is aligned with a jubilee year occurring in his 14th-15th year.

Thanks for the post!! Interesting.

JCanon

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Fictional Conversation at the Door

by Farkel in

two dubs approach a door and one of them ever-so-quietly knocks..... .

dub gives standard starting presentation about how screwed up everything is in the world, and about the "wonderful" promise god has made to us to fix it all.... .

"don't you people believe that your god will kill everyone who isn't a member of your religion?

JCanon

Good post Farkel....

But just for the record, the Bible doesn't teach that you must be a Jew or Jehovah's witness to make it into the kingdom!!!

Case in point, if the GB is the "evil slave", then it is just one out or three or one out of ten (earthly completeness) of all the slaves Jesus sent out at the beginning of the last generation to return after he gains kingly power near the end of that generation and then pays the workers. In the case of the evil slave organization (JWs) what little they started out with they did not increase, but buried and thus returned just that. This is the "little flock" which Jesus then removes from this organization of sheep and goats, leaving the goats, and brings these sheep to "other sheep not of this fold", and an apparently larger group. For in both illustrations about the coin, the slave with ten-fold increase receives the coin of the evil slave.

Sooo...definitely, God has provided other arrangements for salvation among all people who might be scattered in numerous religions, even though the witness organization qualifies as the "temple" organization which produces the evil slave but preaches the "good news".

So condemn the witnesses for their hypocrisy, but also understand that the Bible does so as well. The Bible does not teach that you must be a witness or Jew to gain salvation. In fact, because of the failure from both groups to respond correctly during the lasts days, many non Jews and non-Christians "from eastern parts and western parts" will be entering into the kingdom before the "sons of the kingdom" who should have been in line for the kingdom do; these will lose out. "Here is where the weeping and the gnashing of teeth will be."

Thanks, again, for the nice post!!!

Sorry I said this was not your area of expertise elsewhere...you surprise me sometimes!!!

JCanon

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Evil Jehovah?

by Pleasuredome in

is jehovah evil?

does he mess around with peoples minds?

i samuel 16:19-23.

JCanon

I say: it's all bullshit. I dare any true believer to reconcile these obviously contradictory verses. I'm waiting........

Hi Farkel-guy! Howzit? I'm about ready to start my singing career FINALLLY!!! The net is so great....I can record some things and put them on a webpage. I'll let you know when I get it up!!!

Now, not that it would matter a fiddle to you what my opinion on this is, just how I handle this...

This is an issue of make an out of context comparison. Like in one place it says there is only one god and in another there are many gods. Is that a contradiction? It is not generally thought to be when you consider the context. The Bible also says there is only one "Lord" but God is called "Lord" as well.

So in this case I would think the same would apply. I thought I understood the reference and never thought of a contradiction. But one has to do with pure worship and the other with coveting something that RIGHTFULLY belongs to someone else. Like if I love you and you happen to play the piano better than me (which, of course, you do...at the moment anyway...unless you've broken some fingers or something lately), then I shouldn't be jealous of you for that. In that sense "Love is not jealous." But...if you decided to hit on my wife (okay, boyfriend!......just joking!) then I might be jealous of you even if I loved you. But that's because I'm supposed to be jealous over something that rightfully belongs to me and does not rightfully belong to you. When it comes to wives, for instance, therefore, one is protective and jealous. One does not share just because a friend might enjoy the extramarital experience.

Likewise, Israel was in the position of being the "wife" or wifely possession of Jehovah as far as worship goes. Running after Baal would cause jealousy in this instance and rightfully so because he does not wish to give his worship to any other god. Somethings aer not to be shared, which makes those things special. Unfaithfulness to god, causes him to be jealous. But again, that's not the same context as "love is not jealous" since God is not going to be jealous of what you have or what you've accomplished in your life, etc.

NOW...Farkel.

Because you couldn't figure that out BEFORE NOW.....and you considered this a contradiction.....well.....pal.....um......

Let me put it this way. Maybe you should stick to playing the piano and leave the prophesying to the professionals like myself, huh?

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Matthew 24: 36

by Noumenon in

for those interested in bible chronology here is an interesting website.

it also discusses jw chronology and un involvement.

this link is to an intriguing take on matthew 24: 36: .

JCanon

Ok Im really interested to know , if the second coming isnt the big day what is it?

Ummm...well.... it's sort of specific. I'll just give you the basic line up of events:
1914 begins "the last generation" and the Lord's "presence" (paraousia).
1947 was the "END", that is, the end of the gentile times.
1992 was perhaps a big DATED event in the Bible, the "second coming" (45 years after 1947). That's the reference to "nobody knows the day nor hour" but the year and month are provided in the Bible prophecies.
The "great tribulation"of Matthew and Mark was the HOLOCAUST.
The "great tribulation" of Revelation is ARmageddon and nobody knows what that date is. That's the BIG ONE I suppose. It will follow on the heels of the destruction of Babylon the Great (UN disposal of Illuminati-based world finance) which is also not dated in the Bible. The Bible sets the extension of governments after the fall of BTG to "one time and a season" (1 year 3 months).
So....some "big events" in the private spiritual sector of cult followers have occurred, the big-ticket items that everybody will see and be on are still waiting to happen (except the Holocaust, of course, which already happend---plus the return of the Jews to Palestine, which was fulfilled in 1947).
JCanon

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Losing Salvation

by ClassAvenger in

i witnessed to a jw and he accepted that salvation comes through faith only, and the works come later showing that you are a saved person.

but he continiously argues that salvation can be lost according to our behavior.

what do you all say about this?

JCanon

From Baylonian myth to Jesus to us today --- why do you need these connections? And if you hadn't been taught that the Bible stories were holy and you just read it as literature ... well you wouldn't believe this as truth.

Well that's a fine argument for non-believers up until now. Christians were always supposed to have FAITH as part of their worship. But now, post 1992 (second coming) the Christians involved are getting higher activity of holy spirit interaction and even some miracles (i.e. the sign of the son of man appeared to them and it was even captured on film). So, even though you can't come along here, for those of us who are actively involved with the modern events connected with the Messiah we have a different basis to believe. We have modern references now to support that the Bible and it's prophecies are true.

All I can offer you right now, though, is the stock response which was Noah was treated the same way. They thought water falling from the sky was a myth and further likely could not believe based upon their own experience that enough water would fall to flood the entire planet, so they remainded doubters and nonbelievers. But once it started raining, they were ALL believers just as the angels are all believers, because they experienced it, and Noah was then known to be a true prophet.

So for some, the same thing will happen. People will be doubting, not paying attention, trusting they need to go on with their lives doing the usual things and then suddenly Armageddon will be upon them like birth pangs and they will realize what was written was true. And even though that's a future event, some other events prophesied that were scheduled to happen during the last 49 years leading up to 1996 have happened and so there is increased faith and reassurance among some of us now.

Bottom line, if someone thinks he has talked to God personally, whether its real or delusional, your argument won't fly with them. Your argument only works because you haven't seen any angels or spirits PERSONALLY and you're betting that there are none just because of that. The first angel you see in person though, you'll instantly become a believer and then accept the Biblical reference to the original man in Eden. It's just a matter of time and your experience. But I don't blame you for not believing since I want to have things proven to me in great detail as well before I accept things. But your personal lack of experience or doubt doesn't invalidate the realities known to others.

Anyway, I can confirm for a fact that you are WRONG in this case. But I won't push it....

Have a nice day.

JCanon

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Losing Salvation

by ClassAvenger in

i witnessed to a jw and he accepted that salvation comes through faith only, and the works come later showing that you are a saved person.

but he continiously argues that salvation can be lost according to our behavior.

what do you all say about this?

JCanon

IMHO once you've been adopted into God's family, you never lose that status. Nowhere does the bible talk of un-adoption papers.
Doesn't the illustration of the "Prodigal Son" teach just that?

Well...yes and no. I mean AFTER you have gained the prize and are up in Heaven I suppose it's not likely you will rebel and God will take everlasting life from you.

But even Paul and others had to strive to gain that prize, right? There is the quest to prove FAITHFUL.

As far as the "prodigal son" goes...Remember the Father said: "Here my son was DEAD and now he has come back to life." So did the Father accept that younger son when he was living that homosexual lifestyle? No. He was considered "dead". Only when he RETURNED to God's house and pure worship did he get forgiven and then the Father gave him the first place in the kingdom.

Further, how many "sons of the kingdom" in the end fail? Don't forget about the "wise and foolish virgins". HALF of that group of 10 (ten representing "earthly completeness") got saved.

So the issue is, what point in the "conversion" are we talking about. Apparently all ten virgins were on the same track and anointed Christians. Both "nodded" but the wise virgins are the ones who won out because they had the extra oil. The foolish virgins got their lamps burning again, but not in time.

So it depends.... upon whether one is at the point of having been granted the prize after being anointed or not. Maybe this is the difference between being "called" and being "sealed".

So I agree, at "some point" when God considers you have passed the test and would remain faithful, even until death, then he grants you eternal life. At that point I suppose you could say you're "saved". But before that, it's not final. Don't forget, the "evil slave" has to prove himself but is considered part of the Lord's house until he is kicked out. Being one of the "sons of the kingdom", in line for that prize, doesn't mean you have attained it.

Christ's sacrifice only gives you a second chance. It doesn't give you carte blanche to sin all you want without penalty.

JCanon

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Counter Witnessing

by Yerusalyim in

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has anyone here ever followed around jw's out in service and followed them up to doors and warned householders about the religion as the dubs were trying to make their presentation?.

i might do this once to see what happens.

JCanon

So what would you do Jesus......run up in front of them just before the door opens and expect someone to not think your the little nutty guy you are? Besides....Jesus doesn't have time for silly stuff like that!

Actually, I do things like that and I think I will again if the opportunity presents itself. Problem is, how do you know WHERE they will be working in the territory.

Anyway, I wouldn't make it that obvious nor would I even knock on the doors. If I saw some witnesses working a street, then I'd run ahead a few doors and stick small folded half pages in the doors. I wouldn't want them to see me. It's amazing what amount of printing you can get on a half sheet.

But I've done that before, in a mailout campaign where I wrote to every single kingdom hall in the US. Plus I personally delivered fliers to over a hundred kingdom halls in the areas where I was living! So I'm used to that campaign.

Now I could predict by the nature of the flier or letter what would happen but I actually got some feedback on what does happen. But first I'll just say when I sent the info to the congregations, it was a "copy" of a letter to the Governing Body with a "cc" to the CO of each congregation, but I sent it to the secretary or the literature servant which is usually a MS who then read it and then passed it on. Thus it sort of looked like an "informational" about some Biblical propaganda. They would read it not thinking it would ruin their day or that it was directed to them. So it's rather sneaky.

But it's no different than presenting a topic as a "question in the field" or coming out and just claiming the witnesses are wrong, which they will reject the topic before considering it if they think it's apostate stuff.

Thus my flier would be on the one simple topic that they can't get around which is Josephus' reference that the 70 years began with the LAST DEPORTATION. The witnesses quote Josephus regarding the 70 years and they believe the Babylonian records were revised since the current Babylonian period is too short. But the witnesses are 4 years off in this reference. A key point is that the Jews who ran down to Egypt were the ones who were part of the last deportation. That is NEWS to any witness who hasn't thought twice about what happened to Jeremiah and Baruch and others who we last saw down in Egypt. But Josephus includes them in the last deportation. Further, of course, the Bible agrees with this.....

But, by the time this NEW information hits them...and the question will be WHY DO JWS CLAIM TO BELIEVE THE BIBLE YET STILL PREACH FALSEHOOD? They will wonder why did the GB "miss" this key point? Plus two scriptures in Jeremiah (44:14 and 28) show that a few "remaining from the sword" who were in Egypt would return to Jerusalem.

Of course, it's a Biblical sand trap! By now it will be too late! They will have to bring this up with the elders next. And since it's just asking why are Jehovah's witnesses not teaching the truth as they claim, they will be on the defensive and won't to make a reply. But they can't! Not in this case. The Josephus reference is VERY DAMAGING!

But then, all would seem to be a simple matter of simply correcting this little "error" right? So what, the Jews' last deportation began the 70 years. No biggee. Except, if you move the date of the 70 years, you move the date for the fall of Jerusalem from 607BCE to four years earlier to 611BCE. And that's where the punchline comes in...now resolving 1914!!!

Notice I don't tell them what the actual date is in 529BCE or anything about chronology or anything else, just a simple request as to why they claim to teach the Bible truth but don't and this is just one good example of that.

But then they can't get out of it. No elder or circuit overseer will be able to say anthing other than "Jehovah will reveal it in it's own time....this is still the true religion..." and all that. But the witnesses won't be able to come up with answer for the people who have the flier. So I definitely have the goods.

But then, it's almost too cruel. Where will they go if their little faith is destroyed so totally and what will it gain. Will they then search and find the truth and find the true Messiah? It's too late for that. For a few it might lead to something but for many others, it's just another blow like 1975. I could destroy their faith, but what am I offering in return?

So that's the situation. Lazarus (Jesus) is in the position to torment the Rich Man (GB) with his knowledge. But there is a "chasm" between the two groups -- those in the secret world of the Messiah and the public world of the witnesses (i.e. the "five brothers") and though the GB/Rich Man at one point gives in and requests for Lazarus to at least preach to the five brothers, he is not permitted because the Father says he would not be believed, since they rejected the Bible, they would reject the Christ as well.

So that's it. The general position is that of the "wise virgins" and the "foolish virgins". At one point the foolish virgins ask for some of the extra oil, but it is not given to them....they need all their oil. So the JIOR doesn't really get into a campaign of trying to convert the foolish virgins who do get the knowledge but they arrive too late. So maybe, I suppose, if this was just a CONDEMNATORY type flier that simply exposed the GB as liars and not being guided by holy spirit I would do it. But that would be the extent of it. Hmmmm, maybe that will happen.

MY EXPERIENCE: Anyway, didn't meant to ramble. But when I was handing out fliers to all the kingdom halls in the area, hoping it would stir up some things, I actually HEARD about the effect it had from my parents who were going to the local congregation. I left one of my fliers at the back door and apparently the elders did get ahold of it and they discussed what was in it! So it does work! The J-Dubs usually are good about not reading the stuff, things they wouldn't understand anyway, but the elders like picking it apart and discussing what is wrong with it, which WORKS 99% of the time with most apostate drivel...but in this case it would only pose questions for them. Obviously, therefore, the TARGET is the ELDER-LEVEL witness...those qualified and responsible for teaching and defending.

But you know, the Society knows about me and all this. One time I make a silly "mistake" in one of my "attacks" on them and they wrote me right back and pointed out my error. The other times I never hear from them.

Anyway, the 70 years beginning at the last deporation is probably the only topic you can easily disprove without lots of words and discussion. It's just direct and final. That would be my next campaign.

OH GUESS WHAT? I just had a great idea!!! I won't even MENTION witnesses in the flier at all! If it looks like an anti-witness compaign letter then it will be treated as "apostate" literature. If it's just a Bible topic informational, like BIBLE TRIVIA, it will work even better! That way I can even give it to witnesses!!!! But who but Jehovah's witnesses care about the 70 years? Oh that's a great idea!!! I'm defintely going to do that!!!

It will be so neat!!! It will be like on a half sheet of paper to save money and it will be numbered like "BIBLE TRIVIA QUESTION #36" or something. Or maybe even a higher number like "#72". That way it will look like this is just one in a series of little Bible Trivia questions that some nice Bible person is handing out to help "Bible Education". That way the witnesses, who think they know so much, will accept it and read it. It will say "READ YOUR BIBLE DAILY" too. And I'l put "Nondemoninational" on it!!! HAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Oh, it's soooo diabolical!!!! Once any witness finds out the Bible dates the 70 years 4 years after they do, then 1914 is lost and it cant' be recovered!!! The whole congregation will be deep into talking about it before they figure out it's clever "apostate" propaganda aimed at them!!!

I'm feeling guilty about it already!!! So I guess I'm going to do it! But so what? I'm giving out TRUTH, right? I can't help it if the witnesses are wrong.

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THE REAL CAMPAIGN: But perhaps the REAL CAMPAIGN that I probably will get into is attacking the British Museum's support for Assyriologists Sachs and Hunger for lying int he VAT4956. Now that's even HOTTER!!! I've got the essentials now. Hershel Shanks who publishes "Biblical Archaeology Review" has been avoiding me like crazy, but you can't avoid a "scandal" or an accusation of academic fraud or deception. It has to be answered and corrected. But it opens up the whole can of worms as far as the double dating int he VAT4956 to 511BCE. Once it is clear that that is even a REMOTE possibility the consideration that the 568BCE dating is fake will be challenged and the Biblical challenge is over since the text and Josephus both agree as far as the relative chronology. If you catch somebody in academic fraud then you can contact the newspapers, the press, everybody involved and COMPLAIN and they have to listen. Of course, the purpose is not to indict Hunger (Sachs is dead) but to indict the British Museum regarding maintaining outdated research for the astronomical texts. Once the light is begun to be shed on the astronomical texts, they will see that both the VAT4956 and the SK400 betray the revised chronology totally.

The EDGE I'll have then, of course, is if they don't conform to be able to claim they are fakes, propagandists and anti-Biblicalists who are also INCOMPETENT and out-of-date. Not what "Biblical Archaeology" wants to have to deal with. But there's no choice now. This is PURELY academic!

So that's in the background right now. Last I heard from the British Museum was that "He who writes no books, makes no errors". In other words, they acknowledged the "error" but didn't bother correcting it.

Anyway, the chronological and astronomical data was unwieldy before and still being processed, but I can condense it now and become a "critic" and demand some answers. If the British Museum really wants to get into it I'm thinking of asking them for a small grant to publish my astronomical research "theories", etc. which would be fun.

ANYWAY........Jeez, can't I stop!!!???? You can see I'm excited and propaganda campaigns using handouts is nothing new to me! Thanks for the suggestion!!!! It can be diabolically FUN if you have the truth and the "goods" and can predict the non-alternative outcome.

So we'll see. I'll let you know if I have any fun experiences. But I can tell already in my bones I'm going to do that "70 years Bible Trivia" flier, just to have it and give it away on the corners every week.

ANOTHER SECRET: I'll tell you this in "confidence". Sometimes when I was handing out fliers to all the kingdom halls in certain areas, there was a meeting going on!! So what I'd do was pretend I was from another congregation and had forgotten to turn in my time and I'd put the fliers in the box for the time sheets!!! Say hello to some of the brothers and leave! Otherwise, I'd have to leave it in the door or throw it into the yard if there was a gate around the hall. (I'll terrible, aren't I?!!!!)

See ya later!!!

JCanon