Posts by JeffT
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Am I in a time warp ?
by smiddy3 inhi simon & tech.support ,when i click on hottest and the page comes up as it should and then i click on next i`m thrown back to pages 19 years ago .?.
i think it only happens when i click on hottest and not latest .. thanks guys i love this site and appreciate all you do to support it ..
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"This is Where They Lived Happily Ever After Begins"
by The Bethelite ini saw this sign (i'm sure the bride must have bought it) at a wedding rehearsal dinner yesterday.. yes, the smiling bride was there ordering her soon to be groom around as they were setting up their party decorations.
i'm sure today october 5th will would be the happiest day of their young lives.. have you ever noticed that many movies end at the wedding ceremony?
because for the vast majority of marriages that is the best it ever gets!
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JeffT
My wife and I were married forty-five years ago tommorrow. It's been mostly good, sometimes not. I wouldn't change it, even the dumb KH wedding when we had no idea what we were getting into.
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News from the 2019 Annual Meeting
by RubaDub inthe annual meeting (2019) is happening as i am posting this.. any comments yet or information from what is being presented?.
rub a dub.
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JeffT
There will be new light: "Armageddon is really, really, really, really, really, really, really soon."
This is new light because last year it was "really, really, really, really, really, really soon."
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KH sale resolution, alternative
by waton into the be read from the podium 2 weeks after the initial proposal, command from gb/branch :.
we the central hall*** congregation resolve, in the forced sale, that the hall at no.
1 first avenue *** be bought back from wtbt corp inc. and continue to be used by the current members.
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JeffT
The WTBS will remove the elders and replace them with elders that will do as they're told, and sell the hall. There are decided court cases saying this is legal. A public go-fund me page to raise money to stay, will be greeted with joy by the public, who will take it as sign the JW's are leaving their community.
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As Seen On TV....Have You Ever Tried Any Of Their Products?
by minimus inif you have , was it worth what you paid?
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JeffT
I keep seeing politicians promising me stuff: free college, cheap houses, more roads, filled in potholes, world peace, complete destruction of the bad guys (whoever they are), lower taxes, higher taxes on other people, and anything else they think I might want and will make me vote for them.
So far, nobody's delivered anything.
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question about KH finance
by peacefulpete ini've been free of the jws for many years now and have a question about kh finance.. 1. is it true that all khs belong to the wt now?
2. when remodeling is done who pays for it?.
3. how are utilities paid?
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JeffT
Retired real estate accountant here. (commercial and apartment buildings). That isn't actually legalize, to me that document reads like what I'd expect a bright high school student to say in an essay entitled "How to buy a house," its a cut and paste job by a non professional .
What most interesting about it is what they don't say about ownership. They mention two ways of owning the property: a trust, managed by the elders; and a coporation (probably an LLC in most of the US). What they don't say is that it doesn't make any difference, the WTBS ends up in control of the property, because they can change the elders anytime they want.
This happened in California a few years ago. The WTBS wanted to sell a property. When the local elders refused the WTBS brought in new elders that would do as they were told. The original elders filed suit and lost, because the court ruled that it could not settle a religious dispute under the 1st amendment.
So even though all the paperwork may have the name of the local congregation on it, the real owner is the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
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District convention to be held in assembly hall instead of stadium
by NikL inlast night they announced that this summers district convention will be held at an assembly hall.. this is the first time i've seen this happen.
there are a couple of congregations in the same hall here and they aren't going to the same ones.
they are having multiple dates.. the hall they are going to use can only hold 1500 people max.. just wondering if maybe they just couldnt get anything bigger this year or if the falling numbers are playing a part in this decision.
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JeffT
Tresdecu, welcome to the NW, I live in Woodinville.
When I became a JW in the seventies, the big conventions were held in the Kingdome (which doesn't exist anymore). Typically about 50,000 people attended. Then they went to the Tacoma dome, with about 10,000 attending each of two or three conventions. So going to the assembly hall is just another data point in the downward slide.
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Do You Think Trump Should Be Impeached?
by minimus insome democrats are zealously pushing the impeachment route to get rid of trump.
even if you don’t like him, do you support impeachment proceedings?.
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JeffT
I think Pelosi is dragging her feet on impeachment because she knows that all the bad stuff that went on under Obama will be dragged out into the light at the hearings. I assume that she's working on the assumption that a Democrat next year. That may be a big assumption, its what everybody said about Hilary.
Simon: Impeaching Obama is a waste of time, he's already not President, which is the only possible punishment for impeachment. He can still be criminally charged if a crime becomes known (see above).
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The myth, lie that Christendom has hid Gods name, all of these Centuries.
by smiddy3 init has been well documented that jehovah`s witnesses have long claimed that christendom has hidden the name of god for centuries.. and that they alone have restored that name in the last century,.
making it known in all of the earth for a witness.. nothing could be further from the truth .. 1.justus martinus a 13th century spanish monk took the four hebrew letters of the tetragrammaton for gods name and added vowels to those consonants and came up with hebrew letters to english jhvh and the vowels he added e o a. which amounted to jehovah ,remember this was in the thirteenth century by a spanish catholic monk.. 2.this name persisted throughout the centuries to this day ,in many so of christendoms writings etc,etc.. 3.churches of christendoms religions throughout the world have the name jehovah in stone on them engraved since that 13th century .
4.in the 1970`s if i remember correctly their was an international convention held around the world in which the jw`s released a publication of the conventions and the churches of christendom to the delegates showing these churches many of which had the name jehovah engraved in stone on them.......centuries old churches.
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JeffT
A can't reconcile the Watchtower's claim that we can trust the Bible becauce God saw to that it was translated and preserved for us with complete accuracy; with the Watchtower's claim that some how Satan scrubbed God's own name out of the text with impunity.
It can be one or the other, not both.
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How Affected By Jehovah’s Witness News Are You At This Point In Your Life?
by minimus ini’ve been out for many many years.
i still like to know the latest jw news although i find myself not as excited by things..
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JeffT
Zero impact, but I do find some items interesting. Mostly I'm glad I got out a long time ago.