This is tricky if you wish to maintain fading status then be very careful what you say since anything you put in writing may been seen by people other than the intended recipient. Also if you are fading as soon as you contact a witness you come back onto the radar.
Posts by nugget
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13Received a nice facebook message from an old JW friend
by troubled mind in" i really miss you guys ,i hope some day you will come back .
how are you feeling after surgery?
i responded thanking her for her concern ,and totally ignored the 'come back' plea .
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Merry Christmas to you all!
by Retrovirus init's christmas morning here in victoria, australia, and as usual i'm the first one awake.. hope you all have a wonderful day with family and friends!
enjoy!.
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nugget
Merry Christmas may Santa bring you all you need for a perfect day.
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Throwing this out there...
by NY23brown indo jehovah's witnesses tend to contact family members no longer associated with the religion, especially around holidays, and try to get them to "come back"?
i'm married (never been a jw) and husband hasn't been a part of that religion since his teens (he's now 39).
i've written here before regarding my in-laws sending people to our house from kingdom hall, etc.
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nugget
I would like to point out that silent treatment is bullying and no one deserves such behaviour it is immature and controlling. At the end of the day he has a wife and children and his first loyalty should be to all of you that is what a family unit is and does.
You should be a partnership working together for the good of the children not as you are tip toeing around him, keeping him happy, worrying about whether something you do will cause him to behave badly. That is part of abuse and his behaviour is unfair to all of you. You cannot afford for this to be allowed to continue. He is responsible for his own behaviour and his own moods when he is intolerant that is not your fault. Liking the in laws is not essential for a good relationship.
I would ask him to explain why he has not been involved in the holiday planning and ask him to explain his behaviour. I would also insist on counselling and if he will not go as a couple go on your own. If he insists you are the bad person in all of this then suggest that a counsellor should help you to see a way to address your weaknesses and that it would help for him to go to explain his perspective on the matter.
Your children are the most important people in all of this and if your husband can't see this then there is something seriously wrong.
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My wife's sister (lengthy but I need help)
by arko_n9ne inin march 2005, i met my future wife zuly.
a month later, i met her sister anahi.. zuly is younger than anahi, and is the only one in her family to have never conformed to being a witness.
in fact, she just today told a guy in a santa clause costume that she had no clue about the outside world until she met me, and that she realized her family had been demonizing everything for nothing.
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nugget
When someone has been humiliated and has to work for the groups approval then they want to be a part of the group even more than before. Your sister in law is demonstrating this. She was humiliated by the elder making her pregnant and then abandoning her, she was humiliated by people finding out about her pregnancy and then the snide comments in the hall. Even though she has left the original congregation she has to work for acceptance. This has made her want it more.
Communication is so important and showing her love and acceptance is never wasted. Talk to her about hopes and ambitions and what she thinks she would have been doing if she hadn't been a witness. These help to connect with the authentic person.
Poor girl at least she has loving family to go to if she wakes up to the truth.
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Is this HARD evidence that the INTERNET is hurting the Watch Tower Society?
by cedars inthese are the countries with 80 to 89.99% internet penetration:.
these are the countries with 70 to 79.99% internet penetration:.
these are the countries with 60 to 69.99% internet penetration:.
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nugget
It is interesting to see the slowing down of people joining the religion in developed countries. I am sure that the internet does play a part in many peoples decision to leave the faith. Some of the increase will be children and born ins, some will be inactives reactivated and encouraged to report in 15min intervals, some will be df'd people who have been reinstated. The number of fresh converts who have never been involved in the faith will be even smaller by comparison. This is a record of publishers and averages based on self reporting. Some of the base rate is made up of faders and people who never go out but report something to keep the elders away. If you take into account false data some of the small increases will revert to decreases.
Witnesses will be happy to see any increase however small being convinced that the work has been completed and what they are seeing is the witnesses working out their own salvation.
What would be interesting is the number of countries showing a decrease in publishers.
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Time for another school update!! Really great news!!!
by noni1974 ini just got my offical grades from my school.
for the first time ever in my life i earned a 4.0 gpa for this last semester.
i made the dean's list again for the fall 2011 semester.
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nugget
Fabulous results you are doing so well. Glad to see you are not wasting that amazing potential.
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Two Elders just left.
by mouthy inhow wonderful it was... i saw two women over the road knocking on doors .
i could see they were jws...i prayed & asked they would call here... but no!!!!
the lord sent two men!!!!elders!!!!
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nugget
Fabulous effort, great experience.
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nugget
Sorry to hear that you are being subjected to this whilst unwell. Your friend is exhibiting the conflicts that jws do since they judge everything before deciding what they will or will not do. He appears conflicted on one hand saying that he can't help you because you are female and then saying that you are really male and should not be wearing female attire.
It is not apostasy to know what is happening in the world and being concerned about reports of child molestation. However jws are taught not to question the gb and not to look at news reports that are critical of the society. They are taught to believe that these bad things do not happen. The sad fact is your friend is burying his head in the sand. He is allowing a group of men to dictate his conscience. It is this fear of rocking the boat that allows bad things to happen and why bad men can continue unhindered.
You will come across this more and more especially if you express doubts, this religion thrives on conformity and obedience. Whilst you are looking into your beliefs it may be worth avoiding discussing these issues with your friend he is not ready to listen at the moment.
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please suggest classic xmas movies...
by highdose innow theres, sound of music, its a wonderful life, philadelphia story, the great esacape... what else though?.
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nugget
When I was a child you always had wizard of oz or chitty chitty bang bang on over Christmas. There was also the sound of music which did the rounds. Old Sherlock Holmes movies also remind me of Christmas holidays. Ah good times.
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Disgusting talk about disfellowshipped children...
by Morbidzbaby inhttp://www.archive.org/details/spirituallydeadchildren.
you have to be fucking kidding me... this is mind control at it's best.
encouraging parents to ignore their kids who have left the jw's and blaming the kids themselves for the rift that's caused.
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nugget
It is all about tightening the grip on those left in. Youths in the audience who may wish to leave you will be shunned. We have made you poor and Ill educated but you will be forced to make your own way in the world if you show discontent.
These talks are for the audience and that audience is becoming more fanatical. Glad to be out.