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  Do you think a lot of JWs are ashamed of their beliefs?

  by I quit! in

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  the reason i asked this is because i'm going to the funeral of a man who wasn't a jw.

  my mother-in-law has lived in the same neighborhood as him for years and knows his wife.

  i asked her if she was going attend the funeral service.

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  "Fear of Man" LOL

  More like "Fear of making yourself look like an a$$"

  or "Fear of looking like a wacko cult member"
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  Convention invitation distribution campaign - Apr KM

  by dozy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  had a quick look at the april km - they are having (yet) another invitation campaign to the convention.

  slight twist though , in that any invitations not used are to be taken to the convention & used in informal witnessing.. traditional "convention reminders" insert - usual stuff about "jehovah arranging the program" , get early to the stadium , tip restaurant staff , don't make a scene at hotel reception desks if they have messed up your booking , no peeing in the hotel pool etc.

  (i made the last one up , but you get the gist.

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  Jehovah arranging the program? Usually the GB is first in line to take the credit for the DCs....
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  Taking Notes at Meetings and Assemblies

  by punkofnice in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was considering recently the value and content of talks by reviewing notes i'd taken.. it seems i've taken copious notes but the content was naff.

  not because i'd missed interesting bits but the talks were bland 'ministry' adverts.. the talks all seemed to be full of 'do more or god will murder you'.

  'feel guilty because you don't measure up.

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  I can't imagine anything as pointless as taking notes at a meeting or a convention.

  Reviewing those notes as a congregation at a subsequent service meeting?
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  Needs help telling my mom that I dont want to be apart of her religion

  by LovelyEunie in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i really don't know how to just tell my mom that i dont want to do be a jw, i mean i really shouldn't have to tell her if she'd actually pay attention to my attitude everytime she goes on a religious rant, but she chooses to stay blind and keeps making me go to that place and sit through meetings that i don't agree with on most occasions...i think that she thinks that if she keeps making me go then i'll miraculously have a change of heart and want to stay in (which will never happen).

  i don't want to be disrepectful about it but since she obviously doesn't care about my feelings towards it, then why should i care if i hurt her feelings in the process, you know?

  i just really don't know what to do, everytime i go to that place i feel fake because everthing they instruct us not to do, i've pretty much done it or will do it with no remorse, and i don't care either way.

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  my opinons towards the religion don't matter to her

  This will never change. They consider the religion to be a literal fountain of youth and while mind controlled she won't understand why you will not partake. That is why it ends up being an either/or situation. You will either have to keep going while living there or you will have to move out. Otherwise you will have to be "sick" quite a bit or like a previous poster suggested have something else in the way to take up your time like college or work.
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  Get to the point!

  by Mr. Falcon in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  two jehovah's witnesses walk up to a house and knock on the door.

  a younger man wearing a t-shirt with all kinds of swirl-patterns on it (think tie-dye, but not quite) answers the door and the first jw goes into his presentation.

  he is offering the watchtower on the "occult" (cue spooky music).

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  The message of Christ was simple and easy. Believe and be saved. (I'll let the Christians chime in if they want to explain it further)

  The message of JWs' is convoluted (believe in the WTBTS or else you die), difficult (607 to 1914 calculation) and narrow (only 144k get to be in heaven). Add to that their conversion process, starting with publishing company magazines for a few months or years, move into another WTBTS publication, months or years of indoctranation sessions either in their home or at the KH, then get baptized.

  Its no wonder they can't get anyone to get baptized unless they are born into this mess of a religion.

  The point? Even JWs lie at the doors and say "Oh, were not here to convert you" "We are just here to encourage you to read your bible"

  There would be a little more respect for them if they were open up front, offer the bible study, ditch the magazines. Tell them up front either convert or you die. At least that would be a true "separating work" like they claim they are doing.
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  Taking Notes at Meetings and Assemblies

  by punkofnice in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was considering recently the value and content of talks by reviewing notes i'd taken.. it seems i've taken copious notes but the content was naff.

  not because i'd missed interesting bits but the talks were bland 'ministry' adverts.. the talks all seemed to be full of 'do more or god will murder you'.

  'feel guilty because you don't measure up.

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  I would usually start each convention or assembly with a fresh notebook, with the goal of taking notes through the whole thing. After the first morning I would slow down or just quit altogether. It was the same message I had heard hundreds of times already! Poor content overall, I posted on it recently:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/205678/1/Content-is-King-Why-the-Meetings-Fail

  Its really strange when I look back on it now. So much bland repetition. The same message, over and over. Its pretty amazing that people can be brainwashed by the JWs and any other cult by simply putting them in a closed environment and repeating the same message over and over. Scary.
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  Are you a TRUE Christian?!?

  by brotherdan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been thinking alot over the past few days on what makes a christian a christian, and i'm coming to some different conclusions than i ever have.... the watchtower likes to use the term "true believers" or "true christians".

  i'm at a loss here lately.

  you are either an atheist or you are not.

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  The whole "true Christian" wording is another way of loading the language.

  The GB, and JWs who knock on doors already know that there is a very high probability of the person on the other side saying "I am a Christian" So what can they say to refute that? They don't even bother trying. Of course they know they wouldn't get far challenging a persons claim to be a Christian, so instead they hide their real belief that the person is actually controlled by Satan.

  Then they prop up and reinforce their own belief about "true Christians" in their indoctrination sessions.
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  So I asked my female coworker what she was doing this weekend............

  by miseryloveselders in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  but her reply made me so very envious.

  you know my mother always would tell me, "wordly people aren't really happy.

  " as a kid that always bugged me because i figured if people are laughing, smiling, and generally having a good time, they must be happy.

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  Hey MLE...if worldly people are unhappy, well, then I want to be unhappy.

  Sounds like the WT is really starting to grate on you. After reading LWTs words, not much more that I can offer. The phrase "freedom isn't free" goes through my head a lot when reading some of the experiences on this board, but it really is the bottom line for everyone who leaves the WT. There is a price to pay but it is just so much smaller than the price the WT extracts from your soul.
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  Will the Watchtower get its Egypt moment?

  by truthseeker in

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  the rise of the conscious class is unmistakable but what will it take for an uprising against the watchtower to remove its leadership and petition for change?.

  terms.

  1 - immediate removal of all governing body members.

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  3 - Trial of all those who participated in and encouraged the blood doctrine which has claimed the lives of thousands of Witnesses

  This would include everyone who ever served as an elder. Many on this board would be guily as charged. (Myself included)

  Unfornately your terms will never be met. Most here would be happy if the GB took the money and ran off to the South pacific. At least there would be a huge splintering and a lot of the shunning would stop.
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  May 15 2011 WT - study edition out

  by just n from bethel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't really care to download it and review it and see how it's the same old same old - but i do like to read up on others doing it here.

  :) i'm a lazy leach like that.. so - get to it guys.. www.jw.org.

  edit: haha- i said 2001 in the title - meant 2011.

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  sir82- I think the dude is holding a sorry bunch of daisies....