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  Further Education and the Special Assembly Day

  by eyesthatsee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i had the misery recently of attending the sad.. the bethel speaker looked and sounded like the usual corporate businessman after your money.. during his main talk, he praised a recent bethel member who left his college (aka university) course early to pioneer and join bethel.. that followed experiences from window cleaners, unemployed, parents home-schooling (aka child abuse - it is a basic human right to be educated) their kids and those baptised as children (youngest was 10).. the brainwashed dubs applauded every ruined life paraded on the platform.. these bethel speakers have been around long enough to know exactly what they're doing - they are evil men, ruining peoples' lives, breaking up families and masquerading as holy men.. their time will come when they face god - too late for the many ruined by their filthy lies and false hopes.. sorry to sound bitter, but to my shame i had a part in this cult as an elder.

  what part of my brain did i lose to not see through this rubbish?.

  better late then never though.

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  New Elders' Book - I have been brazen.....

  by eyesthatsee in

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  2. bible

  calling all recent and former elders - how many times have you felt like this?

  - many many times for me...... .

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  What Are Some Of The Dumbest Beliefs JW's Have?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i know there are a lot.. one belief i never understood is that blood fractions might be ok for a christian but not "whole blood".

  to me the "blood doctrine" is ridiculous from a scriptural point of view..

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  For born ins- what tipped you off it was wrong

  by teela(2) in

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  2. friends

  at a young age i remember watching tv and commenting why is the red cross always helping people and we don't.

  the second big one is if the witnesses only started up in 1890 - 1900 did jehovah not have anyone else doing the preaching work?.

  as a child i don't think we think about theological problems so what tipped you off?

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  Was You a Bethelite, Elder,CO, DO, GB, Publisher, Missionary,Ministerial Servant or Pioneer class?????

  by Scott77 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  when still in the watchtower, i used to be an assistant ministerial servant.

  true, there is no such title but its there unofficially for those one step to being a ministerial servant.

  been with it for about three years.

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  The trouble with fading as your leaving strategy

  by eyesthatsee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  whatever your chosen strategy for leaving jws, the fundamental truth is that there is no clean / simple exit.

  the mind control, the manipulation of normal family relationships etc will make any strategy very difficult at times.

  the key issue is to know this ahead of time and be prepared, as best you can.. we've all chosen leaving strategies acording to our personal circumstances, preferences and learning from others.

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  BOE on Disfellowshiped Relatives

  by JWFreak in

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  2. friends

  again...please do not request a pdf scan these are interbranch copies not the same ones sent to the congregations.

  jwf.. january 21, 2010 .

  to all bodies of elders .

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  How do you cope with a zealous JW wife?

  by eyesthatsee in

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  2. friends

  i've been out for a little while now - fading was my chosen strategy.

  before then, elder for around 20 years - all the usual stuff.. why leave?

  (1) reading other material and thinking for yourself - never too late (2) couldn't stomach any more judicial committees where i had to preside over handing out edicts that were going to wreck peoples' lives (3) final realisation that i'm not going to let my children die because of the false 'blood' interpretation (4) nail in the coffin, which opened my eyes to the 'rotteness at the core' of the organisation, was the deliberate mis-quoting of scientists and others, to make a lie seem like truth.. anyway, my wife (both pioneered together) is as zealous as ever - more so now.

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  How can they still believe it?

  by eyesthatsee in

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  2. beliefs

  i've been watching this site for some time now - it's been a real help - but only recently started to post.

  part of the journey i suppose.. 3rd generation jw, served as an elder for > 20 years, talks at dc, pioneer etc - started to fade in last 12 months - will post my story sometime.. anyway, occasionally i still go to a meeting to keep my zealous jw wife away from the elders.. at a recent public talk, the speaker referred to 'millions now living will never die', and said:.

  although 'premature', this proclamation was made by zealous anointed ones i.e.

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  CO/DO's in the UK?

  by pobthespazz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  can anyone compile a list of as many as possible past and present co/do's from the uk?

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