RosePetal

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  do Jehovah witness teaches about grace and what it is?

  by evangelist 1 in

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  i would like to know does jhw teaches what grace is , and how to recieve grace without any works , merits and qualifications?.

  what is saved grace to jhw?.

  if we are saved in the name of jesus why do they have to do things like go witnessing , and etc to get god to accept them when grace has already made us righteous un jesus and not jehovah?.

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  High Evangelist Welcome to the board, if you hold a watchtower and Bible up to a witness and ask which is the final authority most will say it is the Bible but in practice they will always put the watchtower first. I knew a JW friend who disputed something in the watchtower he was given that option and when he chose the Bible the elder said wrong answer.

  On planet watchtower there is no such thing as true grace. As far as preaching the gospel the JWs think they are ,but you must remember when reading the new testament the general rank and file witness do believe they have a heavenly hope so do not understand the full grace of God. Although most witnesses will try to apply the gospels in their life they all feel they are reading someone elses letter. Because they do not understand the spirit of God.
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  What are the pros and cons of living in the Wilderness?

  by asilentone in

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  i am thinking about living in the wilderness one day.

  outlaw, i knew you would visit my thread.

  thanks!.

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  I feel like i've just been watching amovie, getting some popcorn crisps and coke. Tell me more of your adventures especially the wild animals.
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  What now? Where to from here on in?

  by Aussie Oz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, it is about six months since i came on here.. i have a stack of files and information at my finger tips that frankly i dont know what to do with!

  it is almost like i have forgotten more than i learnt when i go back through it all.

  sometimes i re-read stuff just to make sure i am really really sure of it all.. one of my main reasons for beginning this journey from apologist to 'apostate' was first to de-construct the power that held me since i was 10 and secondly, when i realized the truth about the 'truth' and the watchtower corporation/s, to get my kids out of it.. on one hand i want the wbts to be some distant forgotten memory but realize this probably will now not be until i feel they are 'safe' and.

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  RosePetal

  hi Aussi Oz I have learnt a lot and had a lot of support from every one that comes on the board. Every one has something to give because you all have experiences and difficult problems to deal with and can pass on how you dealt with them. Also great advice because you have been there and experienced it. You also pass on information and are always ready to share what you have learned and put lincs. so that we can find out for ourselves.

  This is how my eyes were opened about the lies and the 'truth about the truth' I found out about different sights you had already researched and passed on. You have all really helped me move on. We don't have to be obsessive to still give and help others I hope you still visit when you can.

  That goes for all who visit the board Love RosePetal
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  My birthday today

  by poppers in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now that it is officially may 15 in my time zone it is my birthday.

  happy birthday to me!.

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  RosePetal

  Hi poppers HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU have a great day
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  "Do this ..."

  by sacolton in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "for i received from the lord that which i also delivered to you: that the lord jesus on the same night in which he was betrayed took bread; and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, 'take, eat; this is my body which is broken for you; do this in remembrance of me.

  ' in the same manner he also took the cup after supper, saying, 'this cup is the new covenant in my blood.

  this do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.

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  RosePetal

  Hi Sacolton Thank you for your comment, when I first found out the truth about the truth and then the penny dropped that they had been preventing me from partaking, that they deny people the right to take the bread and wine claiming that they are taking it unworthily [TWISTING SCRIPTURE] as jesus said they shut up the heavens before men. [ EPHESIANS 4;4 &5 ONE HOPE ONE FAITH ] opened my eyes my hubby and I started partaking that very week. Our faith in God and his son Jesus was not shaken, I realised I had been putting faith in men. Now we have experienced freedom in christ which is denied as a JW we have a joy now that we never experienced in all the years we were in the org.

  Also finding out the true meaning of grace was overwhelming I never realised the true extent of Gods mercy before. I encourage anyone to go on the ALPHA course with an open mind and realise we have been lied to. There is spiritual food in abundance. When I first went to a christian shop I could not believe the amount of books that had so much deep knowledge and insight, the hard work and research that was done.

  We have also made some wonderful friends that have really supported and helped us.

  Love RosePetal
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  a childs point of view of shunning

  by looloo in

  1. jw
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  i was having a casual chat with my little girl of 6 last night ansd she said she loved her cousins (her disfellowshipped aunties girls ) then she said we also have some other familie that we have not seen for ages havnt we (i thought she had forgot them ) i said well thats because they belong to a silly religion that wont let them see us (her daddy is disfellowshipped ) she replied oh well lets go and see them instead then !

  how do i handle that ?.

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  Hi looloo I know what you mean how on earth do you explain all this to a child. I am sorry you are having these problems.

  Sending a PM
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  My Dad Died Today

  by cantleave in

  1. jw
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  he has been ill for some time, but it was still unexpected.

  he was never a jw and i didn't really have a close relationship with him, since he remarried after my parents divorced.

  i reunited with him in the mid 90's after over 10 years of not seeing him.. .

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  I'm so sorry for your loss cantleave my condolences to you and nugget and family. I'm so glad you were able to reunite with your dad and you have some happy memories.

  RosePetal
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  I'm sick

  by doublelife in

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  three weeks ago i had a middle ear infection.

  i was all better but this morning woke up with a soar throat and runny nose.

  :(.

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  RosePetal

  Hi double life sorry you are feeling poorly. When I have a sore throat and cold I love a hot cup of honey and lemon it's very soothing.

  GET WELL SOON Love RosePetal
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  Introducing myself

  by crazy2try in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi all, i am new to the forum and recently left the witnesses.

  i was excited to see this site and enjoyed reading a lot of the posts.

  it is nice to read so many of the same thoughts and feelings that i have had over the years.

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  RosePetal

  Hi welcome to the board. So many of us here are in the same situation with family no longer speaking to us because of our decision to leave the org. thats why the support is so important. I naively thought that some of my family would still talk to us I was wrong. It is fear and pressure from the congregation we can never be sure how they will react, as mad sweeny said they are trained to threaten and coerse us to go back. We just hope and pray they will wake up as we have and see the truth about the truth. We are not sorry for the decision. I am happier that I have ever been. There is lots of support and helpful advise on this board look forward to hearing from you.

  Love RosePetal
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  Here's my story! (Long one!)

  by its_me! in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is a quick version of my life in the org.

  i was born and raised in it.

  my father was physically and mentally abusive to my siblings and i. he was inactive from the meetings and service for much of my life.

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  RosePetal

  Hi its me welcome to the board you have had to tell a difficult an painful story. Abused people lose self esteem and confidence in themselves when it starts in childhood and carries on into adulthood it is hard to break the pattern. I know from experience this to be true to keep putting yourself down and feeling you deserve to be treated badly. To top that being brought up in a cult that piles on the guilt of never being good enough.

  Now you can break free and stop believing that lie. Allow yourself to be loved. allow yourself to fail we all do we are human. I am starting to think this way and I am already so much happier. There has been some great advice on the board so far

  I wish you a brighter happier future

  RosePetal