People hate God?

by looter in

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it is a pain that certain individuals pride themselves on hating god, who created everything.

like it's understandable that you choose to not believe in him because of your selfishness or thinking skills but to hate him is forcing it a bit.

i'm very thankful that those such as myself have the courage to believe in the lord.

LaurenM

Yes, we should all LOVE God!!!

A God who condones mass murder...of even children (unless, of course, she's a pretty little virgin):

Deuteronomy 2:33-34 King James Version (KJV)

33 And the Lord our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people.

34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain:

Numbers 31:17-18New International Version (NIV)

17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

Of course, anyone who doesn't believe in said god (namely, 4.9 BILLION people) deserves to DIE

Matt 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

10:15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

I love the idea of loving a God who kills SO many people!

gen·o·cide

noun

the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation. (or religion)

synonyms:	mass murder, mass homicide, massacre; More

Also, family does not matter to God

"Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." Matt 10:21

And I love that God gives us the free will to think what we want (even though he will kill us if we think in a way he doesn't want us to think).

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

But it’s so hard loving God, it’s even hard for Christians themselves not to be killed by him: Homosexuals (those "without natural affection") and their supporters (those "that have pleasure in them") are "worthy of death" - - along with gossips, boasters, and disobedient children. Romans 1:31-32

Like you, I really don't understand why anyone WOULDN'T love God! There are so many reasons I didn't even put on here!

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Signs That Armageddon is "Any Day Now"

by Nevuela in

my "anointed" roommate told me a good one today.

as we were discussing psychotropic medications, she brought up a friend of hers who was recently forced off of "benzodiazepine" (there is no one drug by this name; rather, it is a specific classification of drug).

she claimed that many people are being forced off of the medication(s) due to "concerns over side effects," and that her friend is suffering from withdrawal on top of whatever symptoms the drug was previously helping to control (she didn't elaborate and i didn't feel comfortable asking, sorry).. my roommate then went on record to say (i'm paraphrasing here) "this is why armageddon has to happen very soon, because satan is using this system to make all these people suffer psychologically to drive them into the streets and go crazy.

LaurenM

I don't get it..so I thought Satan was trying to prove the issue of universal sovereignty and that man CAN rule themselves. Wouldn't it be counterproductive to CAUSE chaos and terrible things to happen? (but I might be remembering things wrong)

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Will Jehovah...

by watson in

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when jehovah brings armageddon, will he let me live long enough to witness the deaths of my children and grand children because they didn't believe in him?

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since i've faded and i don't promote worshiping him anymore, i am just wondering.. at least i'd know for sure what kind of god he is?.

LaurenM

Yes and he'll expect your love and worship after he kills them

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Necessary Family Business (NFB) is now acceptable according to the weekly WT Study

by Quarterback in

during the last decade i've seen so many articles, and top speakers try to downplay that nfb policy.

now, this weeks wt study mentions a positive experience of someone applying having, "contact and applying nfb with a df relative".

LaurenM

Note how it says that they felt like he had died (& probably treated him like he was dead) "forcing" him to come back...Its common knowledge that "absolutely necessary family business" is nothing but contacting DFd ones when there are financial problems or deaths in the family. Nothing more. I don't see anything positive in this at all. Just the same old reinforcement of the shunning policy

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What is it going to take for her to wake up? 2016 convention was the biggest display of B.I.T.E

by goingthruthemotions in

so i went to the convention this past weekend.

not, because i wanted to....but, because i had no choice.. i took myself and our son's out walking every chance i had, i made it so we missed the bunker video, the drama, the stupid dream squashing video with the violin.. but, while in there sitting.

one of the speakers said this:.

LaurenM

So my parents shun my two other siblings because they no longer want to be JWs. The only time my Dad ever talks to me is when he's spouting JW nonsense to try to "save me". Basically, they love the concept of living forever more than they love any of their kids. Some parents give their lives for their children's. Not JWs they rather chase the vague concept of life in the new system than have any relationship with their only "non believing" children...sickening really

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Do JWs believe they will be the only people saved at the "end"?

by LaurenM in

the answer posted on jw.org: "no.

many millions who lived in centuries past and who weren’t jehovah’s witnesses will have an opportunity for salvation.

additionally, many now living may yet begin to serve god, and they too will gain salvation.

LaurenM

The answer posted on JW.org: "No. Many millions who lived in centuries past and who weren’t Jehovah’s Witnesses will have an opportunity for salvation. Additionally, many now living may yet begin to serve God, and they too will gain salvation. In any case, it’s not our job to judge who will or won’t be saved. That assignment rests squarely in Jesus’ hands."

This seems to indicate that if you "serve God" (any God??) you will be saved, but it's not up to us to decide...so my question is, why is it that if you tell the elders you no longer want to be a JW, you get DF'd (or DA'd)??? Even if I said that I still wanted to serve God and would just be going to another church so as to "not forsake the gathering together" I'd be DF'd right??..I'm a born in JW, but I'm confused. I've never got a clear answer to this question and its one of the main reasons why I'm fading.

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Single Sisters Over A Certain Age Group Getting A Bad Rap

by HiddlesWife in

i'm new here; one of my relatives was a member on this forum a few years ago and told me about it.

anyways, as a sister who has been in the org since childhood and now in her late 40's (plus as a woman of color), i have noticed that a number of brothers have an ageist attitude.

they are very accepting of young women under 26 and rejecting women over that age, particularly those in their 30's and over.. is this an unspoken mindset from wthq (specifically from bethel), or is it that quite a number of males (sorry, i'm not sexist here) have this type of mentality?

LaurenM

I think the problem is that in the JW world, a female is considered "successful" and happy only if she gets married. She is considered unhappy and miserable and pitied if she is single. This is absolutely ridiculous. Happiness does not depend on ones marital status. Happiness comes from within. Being with someone else can bring you happiness or sadness depending on ones state of mind. That's why so many JW marriages are miserable.

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Finally "they" have reinstated me! that was easy!!!

by Prometheus in

it was rather quick one.

in just few months and after attending all of their meetings and giving them a nice show, i'm back to the org!!!

(what a relief-sarcastic laugh) .

LaurenM

@ttdtt Because he said, "Most of Jw's children, and that includes elder's children as well, are seeking for higher education."

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Finally "they" have reinstated me! that was easy!!!

by Prometheus in

it was rather quick one.

in just few months and after attending all of their meetings and giving them a nice show, i'm back to the org!!!

(what a relief-sarcastic laugh) .

LaurenM

Why?? For family?...Also, it makes me sad that they're promoting college now. I turned down a full scholarship because of them. And that was only three years ago! The stupid doctrine changes makes me sick!!

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How do you deal with depression?

by BlackWolf in

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i'm currently going through a bout of depression and my eating disorder has gotten worse.

ever since my parents actually told me that they are going to kick me out when i turn 18 i've felt kind of hopeless about my life.

my parents won't take me to the doctor because the psychiatrists won't have my "best interests" aka jw crap in mind, because really that's the root of all my problems.. i'm wondering if any of you guys have any advice with dealing with depression?

LaurenM

I struggle with depression too..but once you get out on your own, start making new friends & discovering yourself it gets a lot better :)

LaurenM

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