Even though the bible recommends otherwise..
Vanderhoven7
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UNBELIEVABLE! Actual chat conversation with an active pioneer JW.
by deaconbluez ini don't think so lol.
lol.
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UNBELIEVABLE! Actual chat conversation with an active pioneer JW.
by deaconbluez ini don't think so lol.
lol.
lol.
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The new marketing campaign to boost membership retention.
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Are JW's brainwashed?
by snare&racket ini know as a jw i concluded several times that i was not brainwashed as i was not some unautonimous zombie and had not experienced anything akin to.... .
but in reality, brainwashing is a control of thought and ideas over a person and changing the way they think.
in normal life such sentences are not used, in fact they are highly discouraged... .
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To PIMIs everywhere
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What Theme Song Should Be Played When You Walk Into a Room?
by Sea Breeze inthis could fun.
what song should be played when you walk into a room that best describes you?
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How Do JWs Understand Salvation & What Is Needed to Obtain It?
by LauraLynn infrom my experience within the jw organization, i understood that salvation meant a person accepted the teachings of the wbts without question as the "faithful and discrete slave," thereby placing their trust in them, not jesus christ.
salvation consisted of being found "righteous" by jehovah and resurrected to everlasting life in an earthly paradise.
to obtain this salvation, one needed to obey the organization's teachings, remain a faithful jw, and lead a moral life.
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Mark writes:
In more recent years it seems they have dumbed down the message to avoid offending people.
“We just don't know” seems to be their current stance, but that contradicts over a century of previous teaching.
Throughout their history they taught that everyone, even professing Christians, are on Satan's side. Only those associating with the JW organization and obeying the Governing Body are true Christians, and have any chance of surviving the great tribulation.
"Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." Watchtower 1989 Sep 1 p.19
“At this stage of the affairs of man, it is absolutely impossible for anyone, professed Christian or otherwise, to stand independently of the one organisation that is bearing witness worldwide to Jehovah, his goodness and supremacy in accord with the 145th Psalm and, in fact, in accord with all the Scriptures." Yearbook 1982 p.259
“During the great tribulation, it will be just as imperative that we follow the leadings of the holy spirit and obey Jehovah's instructions through his organization." w91 9/15 p.17
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Theocratic Warfare and Taqiyya
by aqwsed12345 inthe concept of strategic deception exists in several religious and ideological contexts.
in this article, we will explore and compare the theocratic warfare doctrine of the watchtower society and taqiyya in islam.
both concepts have parallels in their mechanisms of permitting deception for religious purposes but differ significantly in their application and historical roots.. 1. theocratic warfare: the "rahab method".
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Mark Jones writes:
They dont actually have any scriptures to directly quote in order to justify lying to non-members (or “using theocratic warfare” in JW-speak). Instead they infer from certain scriptures that even Jesus didn't always tell the truth:
Jesus did not always disclose the full truth - Awake! 2000 Feb 8 p.21
Jesus Christ himself refrained from divulging total information when doing so would have caused needless harm. (John 7:1-10) He said: "Do not give what is holy to dogs, neither throw your pearls before swine." Why not? So that "they may never . . . turn around and rip you open."—Matthew 7:6." Watchtower 2004 Nov 15 p.28
Furthermore, in order to further the interests of their cult, the members are ordered to hide the truth from “god’s enemies”.
From time to time letters are received asking whether a certain circumstance would justify making an exception to the Christian’s obligation to tell the truth. In reply to these the following is given: God’s Word commands: “Speak truth each of you with his neighbor.” There is one exception, however, that the Christian must ever bear in mind. As a soldier of Christ he is in theocratic warfare and he must exercise added caution when dealing with God’s foes. Thus the Scriptures show that for the purpose of protecting the interests of God’s cause, it is proper to hide the truth from God’s enemies." - Watchtower 1960 Jun 1 pp.351,352 Questions From Readers
In case you’re wondering, an “enemy of god” includes non-members, former Jehovah’s Witnesses and… I cant believe I’m saying this… Jehovah’s Witness children.
You may get Jehovah’s Witnesses on here claiming they’ve never heard of “theocratic warfare”. But that is just another example of them using “theocratic warfare” on you.
You know, like a cult?
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How Do JWs Understand Salvation & What Is Needed to Obtain It?
by LauraLynn infrom my experience within the jw organization, i understood that salvation meant a person accepted the teachings of the wbts without question as the "faithful and discrete slave," thereby placing their trust in them, not jesus christ.
salvation consisted of being found "righteous" by jehovah and resurrected to everlasting life in an earthly paradise.
to obtain this salvation, one needed to obey the organization's teachings, remain a faithful jw, and lead a moral life.
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Now the GB has confirmed that there is no room for repentance after the GT starts? What is going on?
See thevfurst minute of this video.
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Beliefs clarified - A big fat WTF for 2025
by ukpimo injehovah’s witnesses have an official page for clarified beliefs they encourage elders, ministerial servants, regular pioneers, as well as all the rest of the elite, to keep up to date with:.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200277174.
2025 has a curious clarification:.
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It is no longer clear to me if the GB holds hope for repentance during the GT after seeing the first minute of this video.
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2024 Annual Meeting Doctrinal Change
by Listener ina change to their doctrine came from jackson.
this isn't a transcript of his whole speech but i thought i would try and get some of his main speech in writing.. at around 1hr26 minutes he starts talking about some dangerous thinking in feeling there is some wiggle room in regards to the schedule for the gt.
but you see, we need to be careful about what we are thinking about the number of anointed ones left on earth.
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The Dangers of Independent Thinking
by daystar in"the dangers of independent thinking".
reading mary's thread regarding the july 15th wt, i began to really consider what the wbts' problem is with "independent thinking".. what exactly is "independent thinking" and what about its opposite, "dependent thinking"?
i think the following excerpt from an article here does a good job of defining them.
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Dawana writes:
Because independent thinking means that you're not following blindly to what the governing body tells you to think. They don't want you questioning what they tell you, and they don't want you talking to others and putting questions in other people's heads.