Posts by satinka

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Does anyone know what happens to full-time JW's(DO's, CO's, Missionaries, Special pioneers, etc) when they reach old age?

by african GB Member in

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i am just wondering since these people never work a secular job.

is there some sort of an arrangement from the society to care for them?

presuming they don't even have children of their own to look after them when they are old..

Has Feminism Screwed with the current Generation ?

by caliber in

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i present this video as a starting point to spur discussion (this is like a red dot topic.... wink wink .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwr1z4aiywm&feature=related.

I hear your frustration, caliber. Sorry, but feminism is important and not to be feared, but rather embraced by men. Women can't be expected to live a disempowered life. Feminism is necessary for our growth. And, contrary to some beliefs (like the jws) it is not a threat to real men. It may ultimately benefit men because it will challenge men to grow.

Women are growing emotionally. If men don't grow their emotions also, men and women will only grow apart.

Mr Satinka happens to agree with me on this point. He's a keeper.

satinka

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University student's JW based honors thesis research. PLEASE HELP!

by honorsthesis in

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/defectedmembers_honorsthesis.

hello community,.

my name is brett w., and i am senior undergraduate student at the university of florida.

satinka

I attempted to take the survey, but some of my feelings and opinions did not fit into any of the selections.

I can't think so much "in the box" any more...sorry...

So I bailed.

satinka

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My conversation and growing friendship with a 68 year old Witness (a victim of the '75 lie) Most older witnesses know something isnt 'right.'

by Joliette in

great friendship that i'm growing with a older woman here in milwaukee.. she's a really nice woman.

i like talking to her, and she tells me that she tries to listen to the 'younger folks.

' she said, she actually enjoys talking.

satinka

After it dawns on them late in life that they have been lied to...Maybe they finally start to wonder...is this all there is to life?

no paradise after all...?

Too late to start over...?

I don't think its too late, personally. It's never too late to open a mind, learn and grow.

satinka

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My First Post on JWN- Hello!

by Philadelphia Ponos in

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i'll give some background information before i introduce myself.

i faded from the organization three and a half years ago.

i have no family members who are jws and haven't thought about this religion at all over the past three and half years.

satinka

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponos

ah, he's a god who will convert all the JWs to him and he will be known as Jepono!

satinka

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My First Post on JWN- Hello!

by Philadelphia Ponos in

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i'll give some background information before i introduce myself.

i faded from the organization three and a half years ago.

i have no family members who are jws and haven't thought about this religion at all over the past three and half years.

satinka

Some things you just have to experience for yourself!

Maybe its a bet...

Any elder lurking here is going to be wary of a newcomer... But do keep us posted.

satinka

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What is the JW view of the Ichtus (Fish) christianity symbol?

by james_woods in

the thread about the cross got me to thinking about this - i think i read somewhere that the earliest known christian relic was a mosaic display of the fish symbol - which was taken as a sign of christianity.. has the watchtower ever explained why they avoid the use of this symbol?.

have they ever explained why it is ok for them to use the watchtower as a symbol but not this?.

satinka

JWs demonize everything that they have not themselves made up.

So the fish has gotta be demonized, don't you think?

satinka

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I am new here too!

by NVR2L8 in

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for a long while i have been coming to this site on a daily basis and i think it is time to introduce myself.

here we go: my parents learned the truth when i was 4 and i don't have childhood memories of how life was before they converted.

i was a model jw child, although quite mischievous at school.

satinka

NVR2L8

Welcome to the forum! One of many healing steps to freedom. This forum is a great place to vent and gain support and help you heal.

I am sorry about your wife... always sad when two paths diverge.

Nevertheless, one must learn to be true to the self. It is not selfish to follow where your heart leads, even if that is not what the JWs teach.

I realize others have said it ahead of me, but Crisis of Conscience really helps if you at all have doubts about the Society TM being human-run.

Now that was new light!

satinka

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Johnny the Bethelite - Homophobic?

by laverite in

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did anyone hear the part from the recording of the last 6 screens conference call where johnny talked about a brother being "effeminate?

" johnny mentioned that he refers to this brother as "sister.

".

satinka

Jehovah's Witnesses have a rule about homophobia, don't they? One must be homophobic to be a member in good standing...!???

satinka

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I need a show of hands: who believes the Bible and to what extent?

by Terry in

i'll start off.. i don't believe anything is divine about bible writings.

i believe there may be some marginal history although not much.

i think alot of folk tales and regional myths are contained in the old testament.

satinka

Hi Terry,

I don't believe anything is divine about bible writings. I believe there may be some marginal history although not much. I think alot of folk tales and regional myths are contained in the Old Testament.

Well, since you asked, I don't believe the Bible in the same way that the JWs taught it. I bought the whole JW propaganda because I was "born in" but when I left via disfellowshipping in 2000, I began to re-educate myself.

I visited many different kinds of churches...let's see if I can remember... I visited New Age, Unity and Unitarian. They were inclusive and helped me to a point. I could see by then that the JWs were out to lunch. I visited Baptist, Christian Alliance, but they were rigid and way too similar to the JWs. I have a friend who is First Nations (Shoshone) and I like the way they are in tune with nature.

One may wish to examine how much "conditioning" goes on in a religion before rushing into becoming a member. Personally, I see over and over again how dangerously divisive so-called "moderate" religion can be.

Most importantly, I do believe what the bible says about a time when people would not adhere to religion. Rather, each person would be a law to themselves. (Romans 2:14) By that, I mean their conscience would be their guide; not some priest, pastor, elder, imam, bishop, etc. No more religion running the show, asking for money, lobbying for more power, and demanding more freedom to frighten and enslave. Sounds healthy to me. I embrace this idealist concept. I believe in being true to myself.

satinka