Posts by LyinEyes

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A Question to All Believers in God???

by JT in

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we have a group of friends over right now, some are former jw and some have never been involved.

we are watching the news about the little girl death and the question has come up: .

why did god let this little child die like this?

LyinEyes

I can't understand this, how God can sit there watching these things happen all over the world every second, there is someone dying, being raped, tortured, starving to death, persecuted, etc.

I know the JW logic is that he will soon put an end to this. But why? Why wait so long. I dont buy that man and all of heaven must see that God is the rightful ruler, most people know that and I am sure all in heaven know it by now.

These kinds of things make me think that I can not beleive in the JW god i was raised to beleive in, he was the most loving, most powerful, most just God. If we were made in God's image, then something is wrong here. If i was made in God's love in his image , and he is my father and he looks at me as his child, this is a strange relationship.

I have 3 kids, I adore them, would give my life for them to spare them any pain. If God is like we were taught , the loving parent to all humans, including little Samatha, wouldnt he save us. It has been long enough to step in. If I saw my kid hurting or in pain, I would stop it. I couldnt watch and do nothing no matter what my purpose was in doing so, my love for that child would make me act.

I have lost almost all of my faith in God and his purposes, I look at my kids and I just dont see why they have to suffer, we all will suffer, why cant God just stop it?

I think I need to look deeper into the fact that maybe God is not involved with us right now, i have no idea why he would abandon us now , when we need him the most. Maybe we will never know what God's reasons are,,, maybe we are not supposed to. I would hope that the children that have been murdered will go to heaven and have a wonderful time, but that seems like a fairy tale. Even if they were in heaven wouldnt they want their mama, she was only 5, even paradise would be lonely if you didnt have your mama at 5 yrs old. All of it makes no sense.

I held my children a little closer today, and actually scared them about all of this, so they would play in the front yard. It is sad to take away their freedom to ride bikes, but I want my babies home and well with me. I can only imagine what this mother and father are going thru, that would be too much for me, I dont think i could function in my life anymore. My only hope of making it thru would be for my other two childen who need me still and my husband, but my heart would have a chuck out of it forever. There is nothing that will make this family feel better, there is no comfort , there never will be. Even if they beleive in heaven, they miss her , they want her back. Why can't God just give her back? I am so angry.

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Would/Do you wear a Cross around your neck ??

by Prisca in

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after all that we had drummed into us about not the cross, and particularly about not venerating the symbol itself, i have been wondering about this issue.. so, what are your views about wearing a cross around your neck ?

is it just a fashion accessory, or does it mean something to you ?.

inquiring minds would like to know

LyinEyes

Right when I left the borg, a cousin gave me this purse I had admired of hers. I was putting all my things in the little pockets and found a rosery.I dont think she left it there on purpose , I was out of town by now and didnt feel right keeping it in the motel room. I threw it away, but felt like I had done something wrong there to.

I have always had a fasination with wearing a cross necklace because all of my catholic relatives did.I always admired how they would touch it and it seemed to mean so much to them. We were taught it might as well be the symbol of satan, but I didnt see it that way even as a jw child.

I bought a cross necklace several months ago, but the feeling just wasnt there. I wanted it to mean something to me and it didnt. I would like for it one day to mean something , but until it does I don't feel right just wearing it as jewelry . I would want it to mean something.

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Tattoos and Piercings

by SpiceItUp in

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ok......fess up....who's got em and who wants em?

i myself have two tattoos ( i will post pics of them later tonight).

i have one on my shoulder - it the face of a cat, i call it my egyptian cat because the face is very concise.

LyinEyes

I have only my ears pierced, not tats. Yet.

I was thinking of an angel or some kind of fairy with wings, not big thou, it would symbolize my mother. Like the angel on my shoulder. But I would have to be like scootergirl and find just the right one.

I would love a belly piercing , but .... well .. a pierced jelly roll???? Not attractive at all!!

I will probably get one on my lower back , there are so many pretty designs for that.

I think Wild Turkey (hubby) is going to get his done first. I just want to make sure I wont regret it.

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And when I'm dead...dead and gone....

by hillary_step in

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i was having one of my daily discussions about death ( happy soul that i am ) with mrs. step at breakfast this morning and asked her a profound question:.

one month after i have died, how will people describe me.

this is the answer that i was expecting :.

LyinEyes

JW's will say,,, to bad she died without the paradise hope.

My dad (also JW) will say......... who died? Oh yeah my daughter, what's her name? I wont be able to make the funeral, I have to get my time in, take someone a meal, build a khall, and it might not fit into my new wife's timeframe, will someone tell her I love her? Bullshit head...... I swear it would go down, no joke.

My inlaws--- we get the kids, we get the kids, don't worry we will take care of them .(Thank God someone would take em)

Hubby- would probably have to be sedated, hopefully a good friend would take over and get him a beer. He would say that he lost his best friend and soulmate. God if you are out there, why?

My kids------would say ... she was crazy, but she loved to laugh , we had alot of good times, some bad times too, but she loved taking pictures, and writing in her journal, we will remember the good times. She always said she loved taking a good long nap,,,, I hope she is right about seeing each other again on the other side. Mama if you can hear me, ,, ,, I miss you.

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Kitten Burnt on Hot Coals (Serious)

by SYN in

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this is so horrible and unimaginably cruel.

i'm usually a very laid-back, easy-going guy, but if i ever saw people doing something this cruel to a helpless little kitten they would get to find out many painful things about the pointy end of a stick!

LyinEyes

JT- that is my point exactly, if kill it you should do so for food, not fun.

SYN. I also have a conflict about this, it is hard to cut up a chicken to fry, and it does bother me that I eat meat and an animal died for me to eat it. I could choose to give it up, but I love steaks and friend chicken, pork chops etc.

BTW I feel very sad each and everytime I go eat crawfish , it has bothered my conscience, I feel pity for them , but still I eat 'em. I am a barbarian.

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Anderson Committee Move In For Kill

by silentlambs in

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well it appears the watchtower is back at their executions.

after jr brown besmirched her moral character by saying she was being disfellowshipped for other sins unrelated to the dateline program, now three men want to meet her at a motel?

why not the kingdom hall?

LyinEyes

Good point Amazing, they can even put up hidden cameras there, since it is not in the kingdom hall.

I mean if they shut the doors and only a few are allowed in, set up micros and cameras.

I am curious, they say these are charges of other things , sins, not related to the dateline thing.

What are they accusing her of? What are these "unrelated " things they keep saying?

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Kitten Burnt on Hot Coals (Serious)

by SYN in

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this is so horrible and unimaginably cruel.

i'm usually a very laid-back, easy-going guy, but if i ever saw people doing something this cruel to a helpless little kitten they would get to find out many painful things about the pointy end of a stick!

LyinEyes

I am not sure if Imbue is asking a serious question on the boiling of lobsters.

But if you are Imbue, I think there is a big difference.

The point of what these guys did was for the pleasure , the fun, the sick laugh of hurting this little kitty. They were not going to eat it, as you know.

I dont know believe in killing for sport either. I think that if you kill something , unless it is self defensive of course, you should eat it. I live in the south and from very only young boys are taught how to go huntin with the men. Most of everyone I know who does this, actually do eat what the kill. You have to teach your children that to kill an animal for the fun of it is wrong. It is even hard for the young ones when they first kill an animal, even knowing that that deer will put meat on the table for the winter.

I can't speak for eveyone, but in the south hunting and fishing are common place here. Alot of folks even depend on hunting and fishing as a to feed the family. I often wonder if how they can do it, I have trouble putting a worm on a hook because I know it hurts the worm. But I am such an animal lover I can't go hunting in the woods, unless I had to. It would mean absolutly do it or starve.

I prefer to let someone eles do the killing , and I will just pick the meat up at the grocery store. Everytime I eat a hamburger or fried chicken, I do not forget that that was a living creature at one time. It bothered me at one time I thought of giving up meat. That didnt last long thou.

So boiling crawfish or lobsters is no different from the slaughter house, and in fact may be a quicker death, as I have seen some of the horrible ways the kill cattle. I wont go into detail, but it is a shocker.

But lets remember the issue here, these guys did this for FUN.

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What do you like to watch?

by SpiceItUp in

ok...not that there is anything wrong with serious threads (i for one enjoy them) but i was looking through the ones today and decided i needed a bit of fluff in my day (been way too serious lately).

so my question is..even though its rerun season...what tv shows do you like to watch?.

myself - i was an avid "x-files" fan but alas they have ended the series .

LyinEyes

Ok , I admit I watch 2 soaps, Guiding Light and As the world turns... I am not addicted to them everyday , just check in to see, if a some story line that started 4 months ago is still going on.

I also like: the Sopranos, Sex and the city, Oz, Discovery Channel, FBI Files, Trauma : Life in the ER, Paramedic, these are all cable shows. Also, the history channel, A&E, Animal network, cartoon network(Spongebob ),... I just flip thru the channels and see what interests me at the time.

I would love to start watching some old black and white movies, these movies depended on their story lines and dialogue, and I just love the good ole days when things didnt seem so bad.

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Kitten Burnt on Hot Coals (Serious)

by SYN in

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friends

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this is so horrible and unimaginably cruel.

i'm usually a very laid-back, easy-going guy, but if i ever saw people doing something this cruel to a helpless little kitten they would get to find out many painful things about the pointy end of a stick!

LyinEyes

This is terrible. What kind of people would burn any living creature for the sheer pleasure of it? Now this is an example of evil people. The whole group who stood and watched laughing it on , should be punished too. If only one of the group would have grabbed the kitten before that lady had to do it, maybe it would have been able to be nursed back to health. It just makes you wonder how someone could be that callous and cruel..... sure you could say he was mentally ill, pyshco, or maybe abused as a child. But the WHOLE group of them,,,,,do they all have some excuse for their behavoir? They should all have to endure what that kitten went thru.... how can anyone enjoy the pain of a little creature,,,, ??????????

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Parents please watch your children!

by Golden Girl in

a five year old girl was abducted from in front of her home in california!

it can happen in a split second.

do you know how many times i worried when my children were late?

LyinEyes

BLOW IT OUT OF PROPORTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you have children? As a mother of 3 , when I hear stories like this , it makes me cry , I feel so deeply for the child and the parents.

This is not a media stunt , this is journalism, stating the facts, telling the story, and why?

Why are these stories told? Because they should be, in the interest of all the children and it is of great interest for the public. People are outraged , scared and saddened by hearing these things.

I think it serves many proposes in telling these stories in the media. It helps for those who may have seen this man, by his description, if you didnt read the paper or see it on tv, heck he could be your next door neighbor. Maybe someone saw something that will put the bastard away. It also helps to remind us as parents how this could happen to our kids, we should go beyond any means to protect them. I posted this just a few minutes ago under a similiar post of the little girl.

Sure the media is know to oversensationalize things, and can even hamper some investigations, but in this case , the child is gone,,,,,,,,,, justice needs to be done for her,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,her killer must be found. Hopefully with this description, maybe someone saw something.

I for one, will continue to listen to the news and hopefully it will keep me on my toes, to see what kind of sick world we are living in. I know this has been happening since the beginning of time, it just seems like alot of little girls are coming up missing here lately at an alarming rate.

Knowledge is power and I for one , think the facts, the truth, can protect you and your kids. Some people want to close their eyes and act like this is just more media looking for a story, yeah but that is their job. There are many reporters, just like the police and doctors, who are sickened by what they see, but they feel they owe it to the child and family to tell the story. I guess I am sticking up for the journalist, not neccesarily media in all, the ones who profit off of it, but the real hard core reporter, because I think you have to have your heart in it to be able to daily cover these stories over and over .. I wanted to be a journalist ,,, but that was in high school, I choose to give my life to being the best seller of worthless magazines no one read.

Edited by - LyinEyes on 17 July 2002 15:15:18