Posts by Marilyn

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Help a lurking dub with doubts

by undercover in

i've been lurking about, checking out some of the evidence against the wtbs.

i am currently inactive but still an approved/baptized member.

i have seen all the 1914/607bce evidence; the blood transfusion quandry evidence; the current child abuse problem evidence and several other things that are damning to the wt doctrines.

Marilyn

Great question: Are they really that smart? You have to remember that JW are not alone. Plenty of other cults, sects and religions operate in a similar way. Pyramid selling works like the WTS e.g. Amway (only there are no rewards with the WTS just promised rewards). Also communism, especially at the time of the Cultural Revolution in China was very like the WTS of today. I'm no academic but it seems that we (mankind) have a great ability for self delusion.

I don't think they know they are wrong. They have slowly evolved into the mess they are today. If you look at it closely it's a sham from woe to go. But its addictive power is formidable. Unlike you, I can find nothing right about them at all. Yet when I talk to JWs I can see how their mind takes them down certain channels where it all comes out looking right to them.

Also people with a religious addiction don't process information in the same way as normal people do. They start with the premiss of sole truth and work backwards. We start with the information and work forwards. Different end result.

Big welcome. Your mind will be valuable here.

Marilyn

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JW visit results in child drowning

by Nathan Natas in

http://www.andersonsc.com/stories/story_page.asp?id=68899

drowned girl's mother is charged .

by nathan golden.

Marilyn

If I were those Jehovah's Witnesses I'd refuse to go witnessing ever again. Who is going to make them go after their visit resulted in the death of an innocent child? But then most JWs have been desensitized to causing pain and suffering.

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Is OZZIEPOST................

by plmkrzy in

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on vacation??.

i haven't seen his week-end posts.. where the heck is he?

Marilyn

G'arvo Prisca, R U going to set the video recorder for the Ozzies? I gather the next installment of Channel 9's jw protection of sex abusers program is on in the morning. Did JanG write to you. Geez and I was just about to get my son to block her emails. Glad I made an exception this time. Do you think it might actually come on tomorrow? Netscape is down and I can't chek the link.

Marilyn

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thoughts about mass death

by obiefernandez in

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i've been doing a bit of self-questioning lately about moral issues.

one of the issues i've pondered is my reaction to the september 11th attacks.

i was feeling quite bloodthirsty.

Marilyn

Your questions presented me with a dilemma. I didn't support retaliation over Sept. 11th - I thought it would have been better to take the high moral ground. I don't support going to war with Iraq. Then when you posed the question about the destruction of the Bookyn publishing company, I found it hard to follow thru on the above. I think you might have helped me to understand why so many Americans are feeling vengeful. I must admit that I loath extremists and think the world would be better off without them. But I suspect they are here to stay. We may have to learn to live with them.

Marilyn

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An Armageddon Story

by jgnat in

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my armageddon story.

i crouched with my family by the heavy lead-lined door.

a dozen faces around the room stared back at me, eyes wide, skin sickly in the weak fluorescent light.

Marilyn

I guess everyone has their own version of compassion. The witnesses would argue that to shun someone who doesn't follow WT doctrine is loving because it's the only method they know to make the so called wrong doer come back.

Marilyn

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Hooray, My wife is getting out!

by JG in

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it's semi-official, my wife is serious about leaving the witnesses.

things are moving so fast and i had to repost the following.

it fell to page six over night and i was hoping someone had ideas on how she can get out of her study without probs.. repost from last night:.

Marilyn

What changes in the last six weeks?

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DF announcements...Is this funny or sad?

by Double Edge in

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something just struck me as being kind of funny, and never being a jw i'm not sure if it's amusing or sad.

in the various christian churches i've attended no ones 'departure' is ever announced unless there's a farewell or party, always 'positive' - wishing the departees 'good luck'.

am i getting this right...everytime someone is df'd or da'd an announcement is made, usually on thursday nights (or whenever).

Marilyn

Are you kidding? The congregations life's blood is gossip. There is so little fun and entertainment in the Organisation that gossip is one of the only semi legal, not disfellowshippable passtimes left to everyone. Of course the gossip has to be conducted in the "proper" manner. One must assume a concerned look and start small and work up to a full blown character assasination. Also care must be taken not to gossip about or to the wrong person. There are always 'spoil sports' who are just too righteous for their own good. Luckily though, they are few and far between.

Btw - we don't say pews. That's another unacceptable use of language. We just have chairs at the Hall (not the church). :-))))

When I was in, disfellowhipping didn't happen much. That's why I got a shock when they laid that trip on me. (1981 - disfed for apostasy - yaaaaaa!!) Now I'm heathen to the core!

Marilyn

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To Mr. Bowen...

by AGuest in

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may you have peace!

i have been directed by my lord to say to you: .

while in truth, there is no "law" for you to follow, your "desire" to "do just so" according to law can be fulfilled in you sending a copy of your letter to all branches of the wtbts, certified, return receipt requested.