It is mostly women who support churches, i.e., attend and do the dirty work. Without the support of women to give the men something / someone to be in charge of, almost all churches would implode.
Posts by Mum
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14What if most of the R&F Jdubs upped and left ?
by Phizzy ini know a mass exodus is about as likely as peace between the arabs and israelis, but just imagine if it did happen, most of the r&f jdubs, and in fact most of the r&f of any religion.. the nasty guys at the top would be left up the proverbial creek with no paddle.. therefore it is the rank and file members of any religion that keep it going, so they are, if ignorantly and without malice, supporting the nasty guys.. the gb of the wt, the mad mullahs, the pope and his coterie of kiddy-fiddlers would all come crashing down.. therefore i shall no longer make excuses for the r&f of any movement that is rotten, they may be ignorant, but that is no excuse, and by supporting the edifice they are as guilty as the perpetrators who suicide bomb, murder abortion performing doctors, and all the child abusers within these organizations.. if you give your support just a little bit you have to carry some of the blame.. .
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i think i found a church
by unstopableravens ini really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.
it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!
they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).
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Mum
Please be wary. Learn from your JW experience. A neighbor (brought up Mormon) and I once discussed churches we would attend. We agreed that mainline churches were all we would consider - Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Lutheran, Episcopalian, Mehtodist, Baptist (even there, you have to be careful - e.g., Westboro "Baptist"), etc. You get the picture.
In the town I recently moved away from, there was a strong trend toward non-denominational churches. I went to one that was right next door to where I lived. I learned that they had an attitude that women should stay "in their place," so I didn't go back.
I usually don't go to church, but when I do (usually Episcopal), I feel renewed and ready to take on the world again.
Remember the People's Temple - a great PR program but a tragic end.
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You Might Be a Jehovahs Witness if
by StinkyPantz2.0 in.
if a pioneer is not a stereo.. if new light never requires batteries.. if a tract has nothing to do with land.. if the new system isnt a car stereo.. if a great crowd isnt an easy to please audience.. if the friends are people you may or may not know.. if you can have a bible study without pulling out a bible.. if memorial day isnt in may.. if starting your time has nothing to do with getting paid or going to prison.. if you spent five days at a baseball stadium, and never saw a single pitch.. for more click here..
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Mum
You could start a career as a comedienne with this list. Jeff Foxworthy would envy your wit!
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This weeks WT study
by turtleturtle indo you appreciate our spiritual heritage?.
para.
16. if a person clings to false doctrines, such as the trinity and the immortality of the soul, he cannot benefit from the ransom.
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Mum
It's just the Thought Police. A person's life should be judged on what they do, not what they think.
Down with the thought police, up with the Behavior Police!
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Your worst convention experience.
by zeb inby a split second rescuing our handicapped son from being pushed down the stairs by a flood of sisters rushing out to see as the drama had started.. the main offender being a special pioneer..
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Mum
When my daughter was about 4 years old (circa 1976), there was a circuit assembly in the next town. My then-husband went earlier than I did (maybe because there was a session for elders and MS's only).
It was a 20+ mile drive to the assembly site, so I dressed my 4-year-old in pants and a comfortable top. When I arrived at the assembly and found my husband, was he glad to see us? No, he was upset because I had dressed the little one in pants! Instead of being repentant, I was aghast at how ridiculous he was being. He told me he had enough "problems" already. Is what a toddler wears a "problem?:
It turned out that he got a speeding ticket on his way to the assembly site, and decided to take it out on me. Well, I didn't tell him to drive too fast!
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Mum
Poor Benny! I wonder what he makes of the parable of the talents. He has convinced himself that he is still an artist.
Most of us would do anything to have that artistic talent, but he's just flushing it down the toilet for an illusion.
We're here for you, Benny, when you wake up and smell the coffee! Prince and Michael Jackson had successful, lucrative careers while being JW's.
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A Medical/Psychological WEDGE against disfellowshipping
by Terry inbrothers and sisters in the congregation may have an "out".. if they get disfellowshipped for asking too many questions or demanding answers seemingly disloyal there may be a medical/psychological reason.. this is a wedge to being re-instated because it is discrimination to shun people for simply being "different" when it is not their own choosing.. .
welcom to asperger's syndrome.. i have it.
my son has it.. i never knew it existed until my son started having difficulty with his teachers at school.. he wouldn't take their word or their authority for granted and he was seen as insubordinate.. .
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Mum
Once again, Terry, you nailed it.
I am an "Aspie" as well, although I have, through many years of lacking a support system and having to make it on my own in the world, learned to appear almost normal socially.
In my childhood pictures, I am rarely smiling, but just standing there looking blankly into the camera, whereas my outgoing sister has a big smile and a charming pose. I was very withdrawn as a child but tended to do very well in school and have high test scores. Teachers loved me because I was abnormally quiet and made few demands.
Just a few years ago, my mom told me that my sister was "funny, outgoing, and charismatic" but that I was "standoffish." Nevertheless, I wouldn't trade places with my sister for anything.
I learned that I was an "Aspie" on JWN when Mulan posted about her son who had Asperger's. I googled it and got a description that fit me to a "T."
Thanks for sticking up for us.
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Empty Cartons well past the sell-by date
by Terry inlurking elders abound on jw.net.
curiousity killed the cat...but, not them!.
they come to sniff out the forbidden zone and indulge themselves as covert peeping toms.. they survey the damage by peeking in on us--their victims!.
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Mum
Wow, Terry! You are so full of truth. I'm glad you're sharing it with us and with "them." Bless you for this post.
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Mum
My two grandfathers were both country preachers in east Tennessee. Well, it beats coal mining. I must say, though, both of them were sincere, good, honest men who walked the walk and were pretty open-minded given their level of education and isolation from the rest of society.
If the Dalai Lama is a preacher, he is probably my current favorite.
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Are born-ins or are converts most likely to leave?
by Julia Orwell inmaybe born-ins are, because we converts made the choice whereas the born-ins did not.
or are the converts more likely to because of thought patterns developed outside the cult?
i'd like to know what you think..
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Mum
As a convert from a non-JW family, I know it was easier for me than for many born-ins whose whole family are JW's.
At about the age of 27, I realized I was very unhappy. I started going back in time to figure out what had led me to the situation I had gotten myself into. It went back to my trying always to escape my family. Being away from my family was one of the rewards of becoming a JW when I was 15. At the beginning, being a JW actually opened my world and gave me broader experience, but, as time went on, I realized it was holding me back.
I don't know if one group (born-ins vs. converts is more likely to get out, but I am certain that it's easier for converts.