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  Looking for Truth with a capital "T"?

  by Terry in

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  stop begging for crumbs like a pigeon in the park!.

  nobody anywhere has truth tied up with a red ribbon to hand to you so you.

  can go skipping down the road with a smile!.

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  Mum

  Again I am reminded of an observation made by my college classmate Jim Morgan, who said, "Most people are just looking for somebody to follow." While it's great to seek wisdom from varied sources, following someone limits you so much. Learn from anyone who has wisdom and insight, but be you, who you are inside. No one else can tell you who you are and what you want to do. Look inward, for there is "where it's at."
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  Elder's School: 2015 KMS Program

  by pixel in

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  good morning.

  want to attend?.

  kingdom ministry school.

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  Mum

  It's probably somewhat appropriate for a large group of men with a 3rd-grade reading level and no critical thinking skills.
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  Many Member Just Want to Believe

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  if you are/were an active jw, you are now here on jwn so, for whatever your reasons, you woke up to some degree- hopefully a great degree.

  so what i am saying may not apply to you.. i know that if i had not already left, i would have stormed out on the day they studied "overlapping generation.

  " i am quite confident i couldn't have stayed for such an obvious switcharoo just to make the end seem imminent and try to explain how wts was wrong, but not entirely wrong in the past.. but i had to wonder how that change (or others) didn't cause most jw's to walk out.

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  When I was in college (to which I returned in my 30's), a classmate once observed that "most people are just looking for somebody to follow." I don't know why I felt like I'd just been blasted with ice water, but I did. It's great to learn from others and seek wisdom, but what you want and need can only be found within yourself. Nobody you follow can do anything for you that you can't do for yourself. Just do it!
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  Funny Video - Phone call to Bethel

  by Listener in

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  this video is hilarious and very, very clever.

  youtuber, theunwitness makes a call to hq and asks the question "can i talk to anthony morris?

  " and uses matthew 18:15-17 as his reason.

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  It probably would be easier to get an audience with the Pope than with the "ivory tower" GB members. This telephone conversation had so much repetition because the goon who worked for Morris couldn't get his head around "between you and him alone." I don't know if the borg even pretends to be "Bible-based" anymore. It seems rare that they ever speak of anything Biblical.
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  If I Were Still A JW I Would Think We Had To Be Living At The Time Of The End!

  by minimus in

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  with all the terrible things happening on this earth, i bet most witnesses feel that jehovah god has to step in..

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  I would "think" whatever they told me to "think" unless some magician came into my life and gave me the ability to think for myself.
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  Without You

  by compound complex in

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  i dreamed, once again, you were at my side talking, laughing, loving.

  the sun warmed my face and you my heart as we lived a life forever.. i awoke with a start that left behind the land of our past, viewing my today for the misery and sadness that, truly, it is and ever shall be.. is it better to live in the land of dreams with the one i love or to exist alone and awake, recalling the dark intent that poisoned your heart?.

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  Wow!
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  Just stopped by to say hello

  by stillajwexelder in

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  must be two years since i was on the board.

  hope all are well.

  i still go to the odd meeting.

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  Mum

  Nice to hear from you! Very happy to hear that you're making progress with your exit.

  Best wishes!
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  Couple questions....like if JW's not the right way then what is?

  by world in

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  2. friends

  new member here so don't attack :d here is a couple questions i have been contemplating lately.. .

  if jw isn't the right religion, then which one is?

  or is it basically believe in god, the bible and you'll be fine?.

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  World and BeFree, welcome to the forum!

  I have heard it said that religion is like a broken mirror. Each religion has a small piece of it, but each believes it has the whole mirror.

  It turns out that the WTBTS or JW.org or whatever they call themselves these days, don't really care if you believe everything they say as long as you appear to/act like you believe it all. They can't see into your brain, so they have to go by observation, which is not valid when it comes to religion.

  In 1979, I left my JW elder husband and began to live independently. I had no argument with the beliefs of the borg at the time I left. After two years, I realized it was all smoke and mirrors, total fantasy. So, please be patient with yourself and take baby steps if necessary - that is, if you want to be free of the anxiety that follows being a JW.

  I do not regret leaving. I moved far away so I would not be harassed or bullied by the witnesses after leaving my husband. The job market was much stronger then, and I found a job easily after about 8 years of staying at home. It's not as easy nowadays, but it's easier to use the internet to help yourself find employment. If you have a "worldly" friend in another state who might take you in until you get on your feet, you might consider moving in with them.

  Do what is right and best for yourself, please.

  Best wishes.
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  Jesus to run for record 26th term in office !

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. humour

  sources within heaven have revealed to us that jesus h christ intends to run for what would become his 26th term in office as ruler of the galaxy.. since his first term began in 1914 he's been unopposed in office despite, many say, failing to deliver on any of his pre-election promises.

  they point to promises of "an end to death and eternal life for all" as being unrealistic given the funding given to healthcare as just one of many examples.. critics say the elections themselves are rigged and in fact no one even gets to case a vote because his father simply declares him the winner.

  they believe that have proof that this was planned for some time in what many are calling "biblegate" and point to basic un standardsfor democracy which haven't been lived up to.. many of his supporters thought that his 16th term beginning in 1975 would define his rulership but they lost faith when his party later blamed them for having "unrealistic expectations".. "i did originally support him", says one man who didn't want to be identified for fear of reprisals, "but i'm starting to grow old and now think i'll die without ever seeing any of the changes his promised to enact".. we tried to contact the heaven party to ask when he planned to do any of the things he promised.

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  I'm voting for Epictetus, a real person of great wisdom, also dead.
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  can an unhappy married woman vent?

  by sowhatnow in

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  i continue to be saddened by the fact that i am married to such a selfish man.. i want to know if i am the only wife who has no say when it comes to using the house she lives in for activities including other people.. .

  let me explain.. yesterday my daugher who is 35 got a new puppy for my grandaughter who is 13. today my daughter and son in law are going to help my uncle at a job, and my granddaughter wanted to spend the day here, my daugher said shed bring her and the puppy over, i laughed and said 'your dad wont have that, ill have to go to your house'.. after all it will 'upset' the 2 cats they will hide all day [like they do anytime someone including my grandchild is in my home] .. i already knew that he would not like it if she brought the puppy over, [weve had dogs so its not like he hates them].

  he doesnt care if his grandaughter would have enjoyed playing with the puppy over grandmas house, where she likes to be for a change, and that fact that id like to see what my cats would do when they saw a dog for the first time in thier lives.. maybe id have liked to play with the puppy .. when i said to my husband that my daughter said she wanted tp bring them over he said.

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  Hi, sowhatnow. I can relate to many things you said. I've been married twice - and divorced twice. My first husband was a JW, 9 years older than I. As men go, he was top grade. That is, he didn't chase other women, didn't beat me, etc. I find it odd that I have to state how decent he was in terms of what he did NOT do. He was irascible and demanding. After 10 years, I couldn't take the anxiety any longer concerning what I didn't do well enough or what I neglected to do. (Mind you, I was not perfect either, but I was also not demanding and hateful). One time I babysat a sister's toddler daughter so she could take her 4-year-old son to the dentist. I was sternly reprimanded and told that the only reason to babysit would be so that she could go out in service.

  Finally, I decided that I could no longer handle the psychological abuse, and I left, moved to the other end of the country. Thank God I was still young enough (32) to start over.

  I don't know where you live, but there may be hope. There are state-sponsored programs in some places to help women like yourself build a life of their own. If you choose to get a divorce, I'm almost certain your husband would have to pay you alimony. Your sister might also look into finding such a program. The one where I used to live was through the community college. You're not too old to start over, believe me. Personally, I didn't get what a consider a good job until I was 48. I lived on low wages, but I know how to get along with very little and shop for bargains.

  I recommend that you contact your community college and Social Services in your town to find out how you can help yourself.

  Venting is fine, but the important part is what you're doing about it!

  Best wishes for a better future.