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  Why do you think they changed their mind on organ transplants?

  by Separation of Powers in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  from 1967 to early 1980, the watchtower stated that organ transplants were tantamount to "cannibalism.

  " then, suddenly, the position was changed to organ transplants being a "conscience matter.

  " so, my question, why the change?

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  Mum

  I agree that it was more likely a pragmatic decision rather than deep Biblical research that precipitated the flip-flop in doctrine. Every oppressive person or organization has rules to fit its own agenda. The rules are usually more stringent for the "little people" such as women, non-pioneers, non-elders and such.
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  needs of the circuit

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the circuit overseer ranted on and on today about how parents aren't policing the internet at home good enough.

  i guess the kids and teens are on line too much unsupervised and getting into trouble..

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  Mum

  So, the internet poses at least a double threat -- learning something academically AND apostate websites! Oooooooh! Demons in the computer! Burn it!
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  Don't Question. Don't Think. Just Obey!

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some of the rhetoric in recent wt magazines got me thinking, it would be useful to have a somewhat comprehensive list of quotes showing the wtbts's incessasant control-freakery and their irrational--and apparently growing--paranoia.

  i was thinking it would be good to have a variety of both longer and shorter, older as well as more recent quotes that prove the pattern and history of their manipulative mantra of: don't question.

  just obey!.

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  Mum

  I saw a documentary yesterday about a woman who had escaped from the fundamentals LDS/Mormon church. Unquestioning obedience was Warren Jeffs' mantra, too. The women suffer terribly. I feel so sorry for the little girls getting molested. This woman, the very last time she spoke with Warren Jeffs, was told, "I will break you."

  She and her sister were key witnesses in Jeffs' trial. She wore red at the trials of Jeffs, a color Jeffs forbade her to wear when she was an "insider." She was such a courageous woman!

  He expected to live as a God, having sex with 12-year-olds the rest of his life. Instead, hes in prison for life. Although I loathe the man, I feel badly that he grew up as the son of "the Prophet" and, as a result, saw this god-like existence as his birthright. In a way, he was led down the garden path, too.

  I'm still glad he's locked away and can't hurt any more children.
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  Feeling Sick

  by FreeGirl2006 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just found out my 12 year old niece got baptized on saturday.

  that is the same age i got baptized....as we all know it just should not be allowed.

  if a child is not mature enough in other areas of life how can they be mature enough to commit their lives to the borg?

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  Mum

  It will probably bring heartache to her. But, look on the bright side. It's a joke! It's stupid and hilarious (easy for me to say since it's not my relative) Hopefully, a few years from now, the two of you will look back on this episode laughing!
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  I love OUTLAW

  by losingit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  whenever he responds to a topic, i just have to laugh out loud!

  i love the visuals-- they are very much to the point.

  even with serious topics, when outlaw shows up to contribute, i smile, chuckle, giggle, or let it all out!

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  Mum

  Outlaw is hilarious!

  I also enjoy the biting wit of Nathan Natas.
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  Today I had coffee with Mouthy!

  by NVR2L8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a few months ago i found out mouthy lived a short drive away from where i live and we communicated by pm.

  so this morning i called her and was able to meet with her for coffee.

  what a pleasure it was to finally meet her.

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  Mum

  You'll have to get together again! Sounds great!
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  The Day The US Drops To #2

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1380486/the-age-america-ends-2016-imf-predicts-year-chinas-economy-surpass-us.html.

  it may happen in 3 years.

  the us will no longer be #1 in the world.

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  The "second-rate" nations have health care, long vacations, and don't think they have to save the world by participating in every conflict across the globe. I look forward to the day when we become "second-rate."
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  If you don't believe in God where do you get the strength to cope?

  by Miss.Fit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know there are some here that are going through some tough times.

  some of you do not believe in god.

  some are not sure.. i was told recently by a friend to pray to god for help and he would comfort me.. my first impulse is to pray.

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  Google "Desiderata" and read it. It says that "you are a child of the universe, the same as the flowers and the trees; you have a right to be here. At the end, it says that "despite of all the sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it's still a beautiful world. Strive to be happy."

  Are you doing things to make yourself happy? Is there something you would like to learn and enjoy doing? Playing music? Sewing or knitting? Writing? Taking classes at your local college? The world is full of possibilities. Join a club or just drop in at your community center and see what activities they have. Exercise is especially good for depression.

  If you need to pray, just do it. Whether anyone is listening or not, you will unburden yourself of your anxiety.

  Best wishes for a happier future.
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  I am a loser

  by zed is dead in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just thought of something.

  i have spent most of my life feeling like i am a loser.

  i have been compensating for those messages most of my adult life.

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  Mum

  Most people go through life as "losers" of one kind or another. It's simply the human experience. I have lost friends, jobs, my home, members of my family, financial security, and, I am sure, other things I can't recall. I lost years of my life to a cult.

  There are many things I have not lost as well. Before labor unioin activism, many people lost their lives earning a living. Every day young men lose their lives on battlefields in various parts of the world. If you're still breathing in and out, you're not one of the biggest losers.

  Just another loser,

  Mum
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  We are (not) representatives of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at one time jws were issued minister identification cards such as the s-65 in which it is officially stated that the bearer "is a representative of the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania.. now, the watchtower specifically tells the publishers not to say they are representatives of the watchtower!.

  when did this 180 degree change take place?.

  here is the text that appears on the front of the s-65 "minister identification card.".

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  Mum

  To paraphrase Mark Twain, with ignorance and confidence, success is sure.